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Some of You Tea Party Folk Think Rick Perry’s the Answer?
C4P ^ | August 28, 2011 | Marc America

Posted on 08/28/2011 10:01:59 AM PDT by The Bronze Titan

If you’re a Tea Party member, or you have significant sympathies with them, I’d caution you against climbing aboard Rick Perry’s TransTexasCatastrophe. The Media is doing everything possible to paint this guy as a bronc-busting, cattle-roping, Texan, but in truth, there are more than a few things you ought to know about him. He’s no friend to individual rights, except in an election season, and he’s not really the trend-setter he’d have you believe. His record on jobs isn’t actually so swift as he’d have you believe, and he’s got less in common with the average Texan than he does with the Wall Street types with whom he prefers to consort. He’s no friend of Main Street, and he’s certainly no friend to real entrepreneurs, and for all his posturing as one of us, he isn’t, and it’s been quite plain. Those of you from outside Texas can be forgiven for mistaking Perry for a conservative. It’s assumed because he’s a Republican, and he’s from Texas, he must be. Let me now explain a bit of why this isn’t the case.

Friday I heard the increasingly estimable Mark Davis claim that you shouldn’t mind that Perry converted from the Democrat Party to the Republican Party because, as he points out, Ronald Reagan was once a Democrat too. Of course, this is a lie by omission, because what Davis doesn’t mention is that it was a long stretch of years between Reagan’s conversion and his arrival in California electoral politics. This isn’t the case with Rick Perry. He was Al Gore’s Texas Campaign Manager in 1988, and following the loss, immediately reversed course and ran as a Republican. I don’t know about you, but despite Davis’ rather disingenuous interpretation of Reagan’s conversion, painting it as just alike, I’m inclined to believe he left some details out intentionally.

Rick Perry has been a regular guest on Davis’ show on WBAP in the D/FW area for years, and to consider Davis anything like an objective or unbiased voice in this stretches all credulity. Frankly, I hope Limbaugh finds somebody else to be a regular fill in, because Davis is clearly in the tank for Perry, and it runs against Limbaugh’s general premise that he will take no position in a Republican primary, except in general terms on behalf of conservatism.

You may have heard some of Perry’s more recent statements about conditions along the Texas border with Mexico, and you might be inclined to believe Mr. Perry thinks more should be done. He even tried to repair his credibility on the issue by being broadcast on a live feed from a base of operations near the border for an interview on Greta Van Susteren’s show. If you believe that stage-managed bit of theater, I’m inclined to let you know right now that he’s relatively no more conservative in real terms than George Bush, which is to say on the matter of his statist, globalist reflexes, he’s no conservative at all. I’d hate it if anybody else broke the news to you, because I believe bad news is best delivered by a friend. Check out the following video for where Rick Perry really stands on issues of the border:

I realize there’s a tendency to overstate things in the name of supporting one’s position, but it’s really no exaggeration to suggest that Perry isn’t really very close in his thinking to Tea Party Members, not when measured against what he’s been saying since October 2010, but in what he has said all along throughout his career. He’s taken money and support from La Raza, ACORN, and other groups that advocate spending tax-payer dollars for dubious programs and projects.

He’s also a crony-capitalist. If you’re like me, that’s simply something you can’t abide. I love the free market, but Governor Perry’s revolving door between his staff and corporate boardrooms is a well-established phenomenon, and frankly, if you buy into his nonsense, he’s going to wind up exploiting your good intentions too. Companies like Merck and Cintra are more his style, and his staff has reflected this over the years of his gubernatorial reign.

You’ve undoubtedly heard about the Gardasil flap, and likely been willing to dismiss it as a fluke. That would be a serious and potentially tragic mistake. The most ridiculously egregious thing he may have done in his tenure as Governor of Texas was the proposed TransTexas Corridor. You may have heard of it, but may not have any details, so let me expound on that for a moment or two. This was the project that first enlightened me to Perry’s big government answers to all things. The upshot is this: It was to be a vast network of toll roads, but more, it would have included some form of light and heavy rail, pipelines, and all manner of things. On the surface, this might sound attractive, but as with any such project, the devil lies in the details.

The plan included 4400 linear miles of a toll road network, running parallel in many cases to existing Highways and Interstates already in existence. The corridor’s right of way was to be a full 1/4 mile wide. Simple math tells you that even ignoring junctions and interchanges, this would have consumed 1100 square miles of Texas’ territory. You might argue that while it’s a lot of land, Texas is a big state. That’s all well and good if the state already owns the land, but since it doesn’t, it was going to acquire it by use of eminent domain. Again, you might argue that building roads is one function for which eminent domain ought to apply, but once you look at the rules to be applied to this project, you might well conclude otherwise. Rather than basing their offers to property owners on free market value, they instead intended to limit it to “fair market value” as determined by a panel of cronies they would gin up for the chore.

This project actually proposed bisecting county and farm roads, and even property, dead-ending what are fairly important thoroughfares for the communities they serve. More, it would have bisected school districts and even towns along its path. Again, you might think that impossible until you understand that this was to be a closed system with few exits or on-ramps, only permitting access at major Highway and Interstate junctions. This threatened to destroy many rural communities, and they rose up against it. Once the details became clear to the public, it was quickly sent back for re-work, and eventually dumped.

Here were the things they didn’t advertise, but you need to know. It was supposed to be operate by a concessionaire, Cintra, for a period of 50 years. It was going to employ tolls of roughly $0.26 per mile. A geographical understanding of the scale of Texas immediately prompts the question: “Who on Earth would voluntarily pay to enter a closed-system roadway at that cost over the huge distances in Texas, when a free parallel alternative is just a few miles away in the form of an Interstate, or Highway?” Good question, and the answer is: Almost nobody. So how did they intend to make this work? In 2004,TxDOT applied to the USDOT for a waiver so that they could charge a toll on the existing I-35. The first leg of the proposed TTC system was called TTC-35, the leg that would run from Laredo to an undetermined point on the Oklahoma border. In other words, it was a corridor to nowhere, but in order to get you to use it, they were going to toll the free Interstate and let it fall into disrepair.

Opponents at the time argued that the existing I-35 corridor could be widened, and this was met with a dismissive rejection by Perry’s Transportation Commission. They said it couldn’t be done in a cost-efficient way. Your confusion at this statement matches that of the average Texan who realizes that this couldn’t possibly be true. How hard is it to add a few lanes here and there? Yes, you’ll have some eminent domain issues, but nothing on the scale of what the TTC proposed.

They also promised it would promote economic development, but what they kept concealed for a while, until they no longer could do so under the law, was that because it was a closed system, Cintra, the corporation from Spain that would build and operate it, would also have exclusive rights to all concessions along its length. More, due to the limitations on exits and on-ramps, it could never be shown how this colossal highway system would provide any sort of economic boon to anybody, because you wouldn’t be able to access most smaller towns from along its length. I’m sure you’ll agree with me that the fact that one of Perry’s top staffers was a former Cintra VP, and the fact that one of his own staffers had gone on to work for Cintra had absolutely nothing to do with Perry’s TTC plans. Right?

Ladies and gentlemen, if you’ve fallen prey to the hype about Perry, you may be forgiven, particularly if you’re not from Texas. You’re not aware, as so many here, that Perry isn’t the fellow he’s now being portrayed to be. He’s not a friend to the Tea Party, despite his seeming 2010 conversion, because much like his conversion in 1989, this conversion also seems to be one of convenience. I will assure you, this is most definitely the case.

Perry likes to put on an act about his conservative credentials, and his sympathies with the Tea Party, but if the truth is told, he’s no more one of us than the man in the Moon. You might want to let your fellow conservatives and Tea Party patriots know it too: We’re being hustled again.

Looks tough shooting blanks



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To: Marty62
Maybe if the rest of the states had the guts to bill the Zero Admin

Perry is not the first and won't be the last to bill the FEDS for a job NOT done.

Treasurer Dean Martin Sends Napolitano $1 Billion Bill for Housing Illegal Immigrants


141 posted on 08/28/2011 11:32:02 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: upsdriver

FYI Perry is not clean, and it is proven by the Merck/Gardasil fiasco (donations + revolving door staffers) as well as the Trans Texas Corridor/Cintra fiasco (same problem).

Perry = bought and paid for by the globalists on Wall St. who have zero use for an American middle class.


142 posted on 08/28/2011 11:33:20 AM PDT by icanhasbailout (Theoretical Ideal Candidate for President 2012)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
I call them "The Perry Paid Brigade". They infest every thread that attemps an honest discussion of Perry's record. Don't be surprised if Jim Rob fumigates the joint in the next couple of weeks. Sorta like the great Rudy purge of 2008.

Oh admit it, you don't want an "honest" discussion on Perry's record. You're having too much fun bashing him. An as for Mr. Robinson kicking all the Perry supporters out.....I know you'd really love that. But think how boring it'd be around here.

143 posted on 08/28/2011 11:36:08 AM PDT by Texan
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To: icanhasbailout

“I am fundamentally an American patriot. There’s not a “liberal” bone inside of me,”

Just because YOU say so?

“...although there are quite a few that are pissed off at people who pretend they are patriots....”

Now you are impugning others’ actions (with no proof).....JUST LIKE A LIBERAL.


144 posted on 08/28/2011 11:37:33 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: upsdriver

Go ahead and believe what you want. I’ll stick with the facts in all of the polls that state she doesn’t have a chance of winning the general with 0bama. Palin fatigue has set in because she’s been over exposed.

The general election will boil down to one thing, the economy and jobs. Perry wins this one hands down simply because he’s led Texas for the last 10 years and has survived the 0bama regime on it’s job killing agenda. He stayed on the job and fought the moratorium, EPA regs, obamacare, etc.


145 posted on 08/28/2011 11:39:03 AM PDT by CajunConservative
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To: Nervous Tick

Good find!


146 posted on 08/28/2011 11:41:21 AM PDT by CajunConservative
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To: SumProVita

>> Now you are impugning others’ actions (with no proof).....JUST LIKE A LIBERAL

Please see post #141. Speaking of acting like liberals... it’s amazing how much of the Perry-bashing material comes straight from the Obama-supporting left — posted by those who bill themselves as the Only True Patriots!

Ronald Reagan is turning over in his grave, I’d say.

FRegards


147 posted on 08/28/2011 11:42:19 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: SumProVita
Now you are impugning others’ actions (with no proof).....JUST LIKE A LIBERAL.

A wise poster once said: "to use only ad hominem is usually a liberal tactic. Please avoid it."

148 posted on 08/28/2011 11:42:57 AM PDT by icanhasbailout (Theoretical Ideal Candidate for President 2012)
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To: vaudine

Thank you for your sincere reply and observations. I know that ultimately the battle will be against Obama and the socialist. There is no mistaking that end of the road. As to whom we ultimately chose to lead us in that fight, well, that’s a battle that will have to be waged with a lot of intensity, because the type of ‘leader’ that we choose, will ultimately determine how much of Americana we can save from destruction.


149 posted on 08/28/2011 11:43:50 AM PDT by The Bronze Titan
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To: SumProVita; Nervous Tick

I meant to say, “Please see #140”.

Sorry for the confusion.


150 posted on 08/28/2011 11:46:28 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: P-Marlowe

Um, Perry does not stand for everything this site stands for. Sorry to have to correct you. I can’t just let that go because it’s simply not true. FR has NEVER in all my years here been a place that welcomes pro-amnesty conservatives NOR open borders NOR candidates who sell legislation/votes/executive orders to the highest bidder. FR has never been a place where we excused candidates who are pro-U.N. either. FR is a property rights advocate also. So, NO, FR can support who they want, as it’s a free country (so far), but I have to correct factual errors when I see them. If FR has changed & any of those things are no longer true, please point to the FR mission statement that notes the change.

No, Palin isn’t “in” right now, which makes me want to support her more, but instead of jumping on a specific bandwagon while we wait, would our time not be better spent vetting ALL the candidates??? Hashing it out and let the cream rise to the top. If Perry is not what he claims, isn’t it better we find out NOW and put the pressure even more on Palin to jump in??


151 posted on 08/28/2011 11:48:42 AM PDT by DrewsMum ("I abandoned free market principles to save the free market." -GWBush)
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To: Parley Baer

That statement alone shows that you are clueless about the Tea Party. Need I remind you that the Tea Party is made up of individuals. There are no elected leaders. There are self appointed leaders.


Correction, they are all self appointed opportunists.


152 posted on 08/28/2011 11:49:04 AM PDT by CajunConservative
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To: The Bronze Titan
I swear, the Palin supporters on here would do her much better justice by pushing her rather than making up accusations about Perry. I don't have time to list every single inaccuracy or lie in this piece, but I'll go over a few.

The author states that there's a catastrophe in Texas. Texas happens to be on the the few bright spots in the nation right now. No matter how hard the Anti-Perry people and Obama trash talk Texas' economy, the people will not believe it.

The author says Perry was Algore's campaign manager. That's an outright lie. That's like saying a paper pusher at the CIA is the same as an undercover agent. Now, did Perry support Gore a quarter of a century ago? Yes. Did he work for his campaign? Yes. Was he Gore's 1988 campaign manager? No.

But, let's dig deeper into Texas history, since the anti-Perry folks on here keep lumping in Algore as if this happened last year. The author wants to talk about lies by omission. Said author is just as guilty of his accusation by not stating that Texas hardcore democrat up until the late 80s. It was not out of the ordinary for there not to be an election after the primaries, b/c the republicans wouldn't run anybody. Obama likes to say that Texas has been historically Republican, but a quick bit of research for those non-Texans will notice that there have only been SIX republican governors of Texas out of the 47 governors. Bush and Perry make up 2 of them. Prior to Bush was Gov. Clements, and he was the 1st Republican governor since the 1870s. It wasn't until 2002 that the republicans controlled the Texas House. It has been since reconstruction the last time they held that power. If you wanted to get elected, you ran as a democrat.

Now, the article claims that if Texas wants to build roads, they will just eminent domain the landowner and, voila, the landowner loses land. Now, the author of this article is either ignorant of the road building process, or the author is lying. The governor doesn't just wave a wand, thus owning the land. That is not how the road building process works. The city/state/federal government will go to the landowners and try to work out a right of way agreement. This can include the landowner keeping his mineral rights, but allowing the city/state/federal gov't to access the surface. The landowner, if he agrees to the contract, will get paid for this land. If the landowner refuses, the state or federal government (in this case) would then proceed to bring suit against the landowner. The judge would then decide whether or not the government should have access for the land in exchange for paying the landowner the fair market value of the property.

An example of this is the interstate process. I have recently worked the title for property backing up to the then proposed I-30 in Fort Worth. Some landowners granted the ROW and reserved minerals. Some granted it outright. Some refused and were taken to court by the Federal Government. In one particular case the federal government was granted full right and title to the strip of land. They paid the property owner the fair market value, then deeded the property to the State of Texas. Not one time did the governor of Texas at that point wave a wand and confiscate the land. He doesn't have that power.

Now, if one has issues with building roads, then I can't do much for you, but that's how the property is obtained, and it's usually by the landowner negotiating for more money, thus negating the need for a civil suit.

Now, regarding the transportation system in Texas. For those who are against building new roads, what is the solution to the growing population of Texas? Those who drive in Houston/DFW/Austin know that there's a traffic jam problem. Those who are against Perry complain b/c a private company was going to take the brunt of the costs to build these toll roads. The alternative is to raise your taxes. But, Perry wanted wanted this plan to allow the private companies to fund it, then get reimbursed on the tolls.

Those also against the idea of building new roads in Texas claim that this will allow trucks from Mexico to drive in Texas. Here's a news flash. Mexican trucks already drive in Texas and the United States, just as trucks from Canada drive here.

As a side note, the author of this article takes shots at Mark Davis for putting some perspective into things. Was that necessary? Mark works out of Arlington, Texas on the great WBAP. Those who listen to him before Rush know that he was very fair in the 2010 primary process. He had Debra Medina and KBH on very often and challenged them, along with Perry. But, if one says one single thing positive about Perry, that makes one a "Perry Apologist" in the highest degree.

Mark just happens to be of the opinion that if the republicans of Texas didn't care about these issues, the national republicans won't, either. Per the 3 re-elections as governor, the people don't care that Perry supported Gore a quarter of a century ago. They don't care that he put together a plan to build roads in Texas. They don't care that he issued an executive order that said you didn't have to take the HPV vaccine if you didn't want to. Yes, your eyes didn't do you wrongly. Nobody forced anybody to do anything. If you didn't want to take the shot, you didn't have to take the shot.

Now, I will close for now since this post is getting quite long. I will be accused of cherry picking issues. No, I just don't feel like typing anymore. I choose not to go after all of the spaghetti that's thrown up against the wall.

153 posted on 08/28/2011 11:50:56 AM PDT by GOPyouth ("We're buying shrimp, guys. Come on." - Dear Leader)
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To: Nervous Tick

I agree with you. (There was no confusion...I read both.)

;-)


154 posted on 08/28/2011 11:51:15 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: GOPyouth

You’re wasting your time responding to the anti-Perry trolls. They have their talking points and they’re sticking with them.


155 posted on 08/28/2011 11:52:32 AM PDT by magritte
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To: The Bronze Titan

What is his exact relationship to Merck and all those other corps? If he got them special tax breaks to encourage them to move their HQ into the state, etc, that doesn’t sound much worse than what other governors would do. I’m not against toll roads per se, although using the power of the state to finance and impose a mega-highway is impossible to justify. I just hope this is supposed to all be an argument for Romney instead of someone like Paul/Bachman/etc.


156 posted on 08/28/2011 11:53:16 AM PDT by yup2394871293
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To: Marty62

Perry endorsed Giuliani in the same election.


157 posted on 08/28/2011 11:54:25 AM PDT by free me (Sarah Palin 2012 - GAME ON!!)
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To: DrewsMum

“Um, Perry does not stand for everything this site stands for.”

Could we have a list, please with proof?

(Realizing that much of what has been claimed by the anti-Perry posters has already been refuted.)


158 posted on 08/28/2011 11:54:47 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Raider Sam

I feel lik give Perry a chance and see what he has to say in debates


159 posted on 08/28/2011 11:55:46 AM PDT by mel
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To: Raider Sam

I feel lik give Perry a chance and see what he has to say in debates


160 posted on 08/28/2011 11:55:51 AM PDT by mel
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