Posted on 08/28/2011 7:17:37 PM PDT by mnehring
Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) was first elected in 1976 but has never authored any legislation to stop illegal immigration. This has occurred despite the fact he represents Texas which has the nation’s longest border with Mexico.
He is against the E-Verify program to stop employers from hiring illegal aliens. In fact, he is against all laws prohibiting employers from hiring illegal aliens. He opposes Arizona’s get tough policies and the deportation of people who are here illegally. If a state wants open borders that is fine with him. NumbersUSA gives him an “F” rating on immigration.
When he ran for president in 1988 as a Libertarian, Paul advocated the official policy of his party. He said, “As in our country’s first 150 years, there shouldn’t be any immigration policy at all. We should welcome everyone who wants to come here and work.” At the same time he advocated the complete elimination of the Border Patrol, which he said was unconstitutional.
He has since changed his mind and now has strong rhetoric against illegal immigration on the campaign trail. This is not supported by his voting record or other actions. He claims to be against amnesty but his new book advocates it. He claims to be against birthright citizenship but his book supports it. He voted for the 2006 Secure Fence Act and claims he supports the Border Fence, but he also voted against it on numerous occasions and always says it is not needed. He claims sensors at the border are enough. He also says the military is not needed on the border, and the Border Patrol is sufficient. Some of Paul’s votes against using the military on the border include:
The Congressman was in the forefront of those who stopped the real ID program, which is not a national ID. It was designed to make sure we did not give ID’s to illegal aliens.
TOM TANCREDO SAYS PAUL IS PRO-AMNESTY
I regret having to quote WorldNetDaily, but this where former Rep. Tom Tancredo’s (R-CO) May 23rd article appeared. Excerpts are below.
“I served with Ron Paul in Congress for 10 years. He was a member of my Immigration Reform Caucus, and I consider him a friend. . . Unfortunately, it appears that Paul’s views on immigration have now shifted into the pro-amnesty camp. Last week, Rep. Paul released his latest book, ‘Liberty Defined: 50 Essential Issues That Affect Our Freedom.’
“One of those 50 issues is immigration, and Paul gives a more detailed explanation of his views in the book than I have ever seen before. The result is not pretty. Ron Paul’s book misrepresents the views of immigration-control advocates and then insults their motivations. He insinuates that patriotic Americans who oppose mass immigration are lazy and motivated by race. . .
“According to Paul, deporting illegal immigrants would be “incompatible with human rights.” That is an off argument for any true libertarian to make, since the protection of true human rights begins with the U.S. Constitution and our ability to enforce the rule of law.
“The truth is that we do not need to deport all illegal aliens to make them go home. If we simply prevent employers from hiring illegal aliens by using E-Verify and step up interior enforcement as Arizona, Oklahoma and other states have done, most illegal aliens will go home on their own. Paul comes out against both these policies. . . He absurdly calls the idea of fining employers for hiring illegal aliens ‘involuntary servitude.’
“Paul comes out against Arizona’s popular SB 1070 law using absurd arguments of the type normally heard only from America-hating leftists: ‘Arizona-type immigration legislation can turn out to be harmful. Being able to stop any American citizen under the vague charge of ‘suspicion’ is dangerous even more so in the age of secret prisons and a stated position of assassinating American citizens if deemed a ‘threat,’ without charges ever being made.’
“I am still scratching my head trying to figure out what supposed secret prisons and political assassinations have to do with enforcing our immigration laws. The Arizona law’s definition of ‘reasonable suspicion’ is the same standard that applies for federal immigration officials and local law enforcement for non-immigration violations, so the law does not expand police powers.
“So if we can’t enforce the law, what does Paul want to do with the 12 million illegal aliens here in this country? While he says he opposes amnesty, he argues, ‘Maybe a ‘green card’ with an asterisk could be issued.’ This ‘asterisk’ would deny them welfare and not grant them immediate ‘automatic citizenship.’ Both these qualifications are meaningless because every amnesty proposal makes illegal aliens jump through some symbolic hoops before they get amnesty. I have no idea why he has changed his position on illegal immigration, but one thing is clear: Asterisk or not, Ron Paul now supports amnesty.”
PAUL DOES NOT SPEAK FOR ALL ISOLATIONISTS
Many isolationists disagree with the Congressman. They agree with him that all U.S. troops should “come home,” but unlike Congressman Tancredo, they want these soldiers deployed on the border. Even if that did happen, it has been demonstrated many times it is impossible to establish perfect border security. That is why Republicans believe it is vital to clamp down on employers and eliminate the reason illegal immigrants are in the United States.
America has a 5,525 mile border with Canada, a 1,969 mile border with Mexico, and 12,383 miles of coastline. Thousands of Chinese immigrants have arrived illegally by ship. Searching every container on every ship has proven to be impossible.
The real answer is E-Verify and restrictions on employers who hire illegal immigrants.
I’m done with your plan.
...down with your plan.
It’s ok to have flaws as long as you have an “opt out clause” don’tcha know?
I belong to the secret Ron Paul supporter camp that secretly wants to make other candidates fight because everybody always accuses Ron Paul of wearing a tin-foil hat...
Maybe for normal Jedi but when you’re a real deal Jedi like ron Paul. there’s only one candidate to vote for.
Unless you’re intentionally trying to give Obama a second term than you’ll support Ron Paul for Viceroy of the Galactic Republic.
You are an ignorant fool. There is no reliable test for HPV.
That’s why Obamacare is so wonderful, because he was good enough to offer an opt out clause. You see he’s not a socialist.
And what do you propose instead of amnesty? Remember, there are 12 million plus in this country illegally. It is a math question I am asking you?
I agree with you Tempest
If you are actively engaged in physical relations you should take personal responsibility for your own health. It's not big governments job to impose health mandates on the general population for noncontagious diseases. That is authoritarian, nanny state thinking.
This is so lame. Tell me what candidate has authored any such legislation or even made so much as a whimper on this issue. This is supposed to be a place for serious discussion not a place for shills from other candidate's camps. Everyone knows shills invade this site but when it is as blatant as this it is really insulting.
First and foremost, when you have a leak, you plug it which is border security. Then, if you start implementing things like eVerify and cracking down on employers you will make a big cut into the ability of them to find work and you will have a lot of self-deportations like we have seen in some States as the economy goes down. As you use things like eVerify, that will actually reduce the amount of work catching people here illegally or using fraudulent identification. The mathematical numbers are against the ‘round them all up’ calls, but that doesn’t mean forgiving the crimes they are committing is the answer. The crime isn’t just coming across the border. Just the act of staying here means they have committed tax fraud, social security fraud, identity theft, document fraud, etc. If you want Amnesty, start by freely giving an illegal access to your identity and bank accounts before you demand the rest of us in the country does so.
It is not the governments job to mandate health care or do you actually support government health care mandates?
You have got to be kidding me, Perry is against E Verify? Well, forget him. E Verify is a no brainer. It works. Any candidate that is against it can't be taken seriously.
If there are any Perry supporters out there that have information different than this. please post. Otherwise, Perry is a horrible choice for the GOP.
That was actually a very good answer. I was expecting something different. Thanks for the thoughtful reply.
Understandable. There have been some Paul people lately playing games on any threads critical of him by trying to change the subject to trash Palin or Perry or Cain or Bachmann depending on who is getting the news that day. Anything to change the subject from Paul's flaws.
Blood tests are not required hardly anywhere anymore, and there are many who will not take them.
Also, as you can see from the other link, hpv can even be passed mouth-to-mouth. That can be entirely innocent of anything other than affection. It could also be non-sexual, heavy petting that kids sometimes find themselves engaged in.
Facts are stubborn things. They don’t go away because we don’t like them.
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