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Americans, who are largely dismissive of the stupid, socialist administration that ruins our lives and economy, fail to realize how unresponsive in the event of a real emergency this Obama regime would be!

These morons are not only brain-dead children running an adult nation, but they have been on their own tangent to ruin America so that like-minded fools could rebuild it. They have no concept of what outside haters could do that would undermine even their evil shenanigans.

1 posted on 09/25/2011 1:30:38 PM PDT by IbJensen
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Seems highly unlikely. EMP would not destroy the entire infrastructure, just the local area.


2 posted on 09/25/2011 1:33:33 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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fail to realize how unresponsive in the event of a real emergency this Obama regime would be!

Are you real sure you want Obama administration "help"?

In fact, smaller government should mean less help.
3 posted on 09/25/2011 1:34:28 PM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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At least my old Jeep doesn’t have a computer. Of course it may be hard to get fuel.


4 posted on 09/25/2011 1:34:52 PM PDT by umgud
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The veneer of civilization is extremely thin. An EMP would do all that you have described, but that would only be the beginning of the damage. The police and National Guard could not hope to contain the rioting and lawlessness that would result when the food and fuel run out. It would make zombie apocalypse movies look tame in comparison. Starvation, disease, exposure to the elements, and extreme violence would wipe out nearly everyone.


5 posted on 09/25/2011 1:36:51 PM PDT by Astronaut
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It be a life consisiting of enjoying camping, hunting, fishing, and avoiding urban areas like the plague.


6 posted on 09/25/2011 1:37:24 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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someone must have recently read the book, “One Second After”.....since I read it about 2 years ago....I’ve been planning....hoping that will help....


8 posted on 09/25/2011 1:40:08 PM PDT by goodnesswins (My Kid/Grandkids are NOT your ATM, liberals! (Sarah Palin))
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Fat chance. This “EMP is going to ruin the world!” thing has gotten out of hand.

Even if everything, from having the correct nuclear bomb in the first place, to having a missile that can get it into high altitude over the US, to the actual EMP getting into long wire devices, etc., were to be in place the damage would be very minimal and corrected within hours and days.

EMP DOES NOT destroy all things electrical and electronic, counter to what all the ignorant survivalist types claim otherwise.


13 posted on 09/25/2011 1:42:01 PM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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I heard Frank Gaffney discussing this on Talk Radio earlier this week. What I want to know is, why is it suddenly front and center? Seems like it would have to be a highly scientific development that most of the 3rd world is not capable of achieving.

Seems like scare tactics to me. Anyone?


14 posted on 09/25/2011 1:42:55 PM PDT by bboop (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers?)
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So in other words, Obama’s administration and the dems in congress causing a total financial collapse isn't the worst thing that could happen...
16 posted on 09/25/2011 1:43:36 PM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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17 posted on 09/25/2011 1:44:28 PM PDT by granite (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left - Ecclest 10:2)
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I’m sure our government worthies will take care of us. After all, we pay their fat salaries... /s/


25 posted on 09/25/2011 1:47:25 PM PDT by Gritty (Compromise that is not a solution is a waste of time. We either save this country or we do not-Rubio)
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I’ve worked in the utility industry for 25 years. I started as a power plant electrician and moved into instrument & controls and now I work with SCADA systems. Over that quarter century, we have automated everything we can to reduce labor costs. We have switched from analog controls to digital controls to reduce labor costs. We have moved from heavy-duty electronics to micro-electronics to cut costs and again to reduce labor costs.

We can run a utility with 10% of the people we needed 25 years ago. The risk is that an EMP or cyber attack can knock us back to the 1800s because we don’t even have the people trained to get us back online without the easily programmed and replaced digital control systems.

When we faced the mega-hoax of Y2K, we were barely ready. We used every person we had to be standing by when the clocks rolled over, and if the worst-case scenario had happened (which no one believed it would, but the FedGov made us “prepare” anyway), we could have operated the utility without computers.

But that was 11 years ago. We have half the people working in the power plants, electric grids, and water/wastewater systems now as we did then and the reliance on cheap, digital controls is about 10x what it was in 1999.

The key to the EMP scare is that it requires detonating a large thermonucler warhead high over the USA and our Ohio-class SSBNs are hardened against EMP. Using that weapon is an act of nuclear war and we have procedures in place for that and those procedures involve the Ohio-class SSBNs. A towelhead with a suitcase nuke is not going to be able to make this attack a reality. Only a few nations could pull this off and they’ve had nukes for many years, but we’ve stared each other down for a long time without any mushroom clouds.


26 posted on 09/25/2011 1:48:38 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (The solution to fix Congress: Nuke em from orbit. It's the only way to be sure!)
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Ping


30 posted on 09/25/2011 1:49:32 PM PDT by carjic (I've always been taught to respect my elders.... but it's getting harder to find any!)
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It has been estimated that the entire power grid could potentially be protected for about 20 billion dollars. Considering the fact that we have spent over 400 billion dollars in Afghanistan, I think that we could afford it. We have spent our national security dollars very, very badly and someday it is going to come back to bite us...

North Korea and Iran are chomping at the bit with this one... the time to fix the grid is now...

32 posted on 09/25/2011 1:51:24 PM PDT by GOPJ (126 people were indicted for being terrorists in the last two years. Every one of them was Muslim.)
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More than half of the US population would be wiped-out after more than 12 hours without news about the Kardasians.

Well, come to think of it, that might actually be a good thing.


36 posted on 09/25/2011 1:51:57 PM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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41 posted on 09/25/2011 1:53:51 PM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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As I posted on another EMP thread, “The “EMP Threat” seems to come up every three or four months. Must be important for us to know, to get such regular reminders.”

You’d need absolutely reliable thermonuke bombs ( a 50 kT bomb is not big enough) plus a reliable missile system that can land a nuke at the right place at the right time, and the entire setup from construction of the launch pad up to the detonation would need to be stealthy and secret.

If our radars/sats detected an incoming from a threat country, what do you suppose the response would be? I mean after we launch THAAD, SM Block II, and EKV?


47 posted on 09/25/2011 1:56:59 PM PDT by DBrow
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48 posted on 09/25/2011 1:57:11 PM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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EMP most certainly is a clear and present danger to our nation!
http://www.dakotavoice.com/2010/12/emp-death-of-america-in-the-blink-of-an-eye/


52 posted on 09/25/2011 1:59:02 PM PDT by WXRGina
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I’ve got to consider this article a bit hyperbolic about the effect of an EMP. Since most cars are still made of metal, they are effectively faraday cages. A car will, after all, protect you from a direct lighting strike. So, if the electromagnetic effect of a lighting strike can be deflected, certainly a far less energetic EMP would also be deflected by the metal shell of the vehicle, leaving all the contained electronics unaffected.


53 posted on 09/25/2011 1:59:30 PM PDT by 6SJ7 (atlasShruggedInd = TRUE)
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