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No Victory But Defeat
Sultan Knish ^ | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 10/22/2011 9:55:03 PM PDT by ventanax5

The most common justification for the Shalit deal is to wear it as a perverse badge of moral nobility. "What other country would exchange a thousand terrorists for one man." This is a close cousin of the argument that says the United States treating terrorists with kid gloves proves that it is nobler than them. Both of these insufferable arguments are symptoms of the moral decline of civilization.

If the life of a single soldier is more important than the battle, then why have battles or soldiers at all? We don't send soldiers out to fight because we think that their lives are worthless, but because the objective of war is to save even more lives than those that will be lost in fighting it. Or to preserve that liberty and independence from enemy oppression which are the qualities that make life worthwhile.

There is nothing to be proud of in a moral confusion that puts the soldier before the battle. Even less in a country whose commanders and politicians think nothing of sacrificing soldiers in order to preserve the lives of enemy civilians.

(Excerpt) Read more at sultanknish.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: idf; israel; morals; pacifism; shalit; wot

1 posted on 10/22/2011 9:55:05 PM PDT by ventanax5
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To: ventanax5
A lot of people are missing a key aspect: Both the Palestinians and the Israelis have come to an agreement on the value of an Israeli soldier's life vis a vis a Palestinian's life. One Palestinian is worth 1/1000th the value of an Israeli soldier.

If I were a Palestinian, I'd be humiliated by this! Even at 1:1 parity, they are admitting the value is even, and they should value their own people more.

2 posted on 10/22/2011 10:01:33 PM PDT by ElectronVolt
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To: ElectronVolt

“...If I were a Palestinian, I’d be humiliated by this!..”

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Islamics do not value human life. So where is the surprise?


3 posted on 10/22/2011 10:11:14 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: daisy mae for the usa; AdvisorB; wizardoz; free-in-nyc

ping


4 posted on 10/22/2011 10:35:05 PM PDT by expat1000
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To: EagleUSA
Islamics do not value human life.

Which makes it imperative that the West does everything in its power to keep nukes out of their possession. Too late though -- the Pakis already have them. ...thanks to Bill Clinton's inaction.

5 posted on 10/22/2011 10:52:36 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: ElectronVolt

When one of the released kills a few more Israelis you can tell the victim’s family all about this supperior parity.

BTW, there are more than 1000 muslims willing to give their lives for every man woman and child in Israel.


6 posted on 10/22/2011 11:25:24 PM PDT by Eyes Unclouded ("The word bipartisan means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out." -George Carlin)
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To: ventanax5

Amen!


7 posted on 10/22/2011 11:57:39 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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8 posted on 10/23/2011 12:12:18 AM PDT by onyx (You're here on FR, so support it! Compiling New Sarah Ping List. Let me know if you want on it.)
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To: ventanax5

Yuh.

I agree that it takes at least a thousand of those punks to equal one Israeli, but I don’t think we can deal in politics or war this way.

If you do the arithmetic, all those terrorists released are a large force in this war we’re in.


9 posted on 10/23/2011 6:44:57 AM PDT by RoadTest (For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.)
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To: Eyes Unclouded

There are NOT 7.8 Billion Muslims hanging around slobbering for the opportunity to slay Israelis / Jews, however much it might seem that way.

While I appreciate — and agree with — your point, you really should care enough about your credibility to get it right ...

Your multiple SHOULD be something more in the range of 150..200, NOT 1000.

One Man’s Opinion

21stCenturion


10 posted on 10/23/2011 6:49:13 AM PDT by 21stCenturion ("It's the Judges, Stupid !")
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