The Science Behind the E-Cat Cold Fusion Reactor

Zorinaq ^ | Nov 6 2011 | Mark Bevand

[Kevmo]

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Unfortunately, if Rossi hired a bunch of actors to pretend to be the customer reps, created an elaborate year-long special-effects-derived series of demos, bribed, hypnotised or otherwise fooled Focardi, Levi, Kullander, Essen, Bianchini, Stremmenos and convinced a bunch of Greek crooks to set up a dummy company called Defkalion to pretend to fight with him over the non-existent eCat, to perpetuate the illusion and spin it off into a competing mirror-scam and convinced his former partners to set up another company called Ampenergo to pretend that they had a contract for The Americas for a substantial sum or that they just did this with no proof because they have worked with Rossi and trust him because he’s such a fine fellow, arranged for Piantelli, Miley and a host of others to try to fool the world into thinking that cold fusion was real, got NASA, SPAWAR, The Defense Threat Reduction Agency and The Defense Intelligence Agency to say nice things about the field, got Bushnell to make a fool of himself, sold his profitable company to his ex-partners in order to spend that wealth on a multi-million dollar scam; certain that once he got all the above ducks in a row he would pretend to sell the first device and then reel in the true target of his dastardly plan – the second (this time genuine) buyer of a 1MW plant that will net him $2 million dollars until they want their money back or sucker a $100 million dollar deal under the table because he has experience in pulling the wool over all these idiotic eyes and knows that they will just take his word for it and not want to test if his 1MW plant can heat a small village without truckloads of coal or oil or a big fat electric cable coming into the container from beneath the floor (no you can’t lift the carpet!) and that, in order to pull this off, Rossi had to risk discovery by interviewing all the people he subsequently fooled so that he could only invite the gullible Professors and not the brilliant anonymous posters on the Internet who surely would have found him out – then all bets are off and I’m with the guys who think that Rossi is an idiot and they are all geniuses .

[Kevmo]

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[Kevmo]

[Vo]: October 28 Established ECAT System Facts
David Roberson
Sun, 06 Nov 2011 13:58:30 -0800

I would like to have access to the known facts associated with the latest test
of the 1 MW ECAT system. Is it possible for us as a group to keep a list of
what we know must be true about the test and other facts that influence the
measured performance? I am including a beginning list that should be reviewed
for accuracy and appended to by vortex members. Thank you.
1). The ECATs were preloaded with water prior to beginning the test.
a). A reasonable estimate of the water held within the 107 ECATs is 107 units x
30 liters/unit = 3210 liters.
b). The water within the 107 ECATs is replaced in approximately 3210 liters /
675.6 liters/hour = 4.75 hours.
2). There is no pump within the output path between the ECAT’s and the large
water storage tank.
a). This configuration absolutely demands that the output vapor must be greater
than atmospheric pressure. This is necessary to push the water out of the
dissipaters.
b). This pressure can be estimated by someone who is skilled in the calculation
of liquid and vapor flow through pipes and dissipaters.
3). The average input water flow rate for the ECAT’s was 675.6 liters/hour.
a). The output flow rate is 675.6 liters/hour / 3600 seconds/hour * 1000
grams/liter = 187.667 grams/second. Using this value and information from NIST
leads to the following conclusion.
b). 105 C is the average temperature output of the system, and 18
C average input.
c). If only liquid water is ejected by the ECATs, the minimum system power
output is 187.667 grams/second * (440.27 joules/gram liquid at 105 C – 75.544
joules/gram liquid at 18 C) = 68.45 Kilowatts.
d). If vapor is the only output then the maximum system power output is 187.667
grams/second * (2683.4 joules/gram vapor at 105 C – 75.544 joules/gram liquid
at 18 C) = 489.4 Kilowatts.
e). The true power output of the system must lie between these two values.
4). The customer had an engineer named Domenico Fioravanti and helpers to
verify operation of the system.
Dave

[Vo]: October 28 Established

[Talisker]

Unfortunately, if Rossi hired a bunch of actors to pretend to be the customer reps, created an elaborate year-long special-effects-derived series of demos, bribed, hypnotised or otherwise fooled Focardi, Levi, Kullander, Essen, Bianchini, Stremmenos and convinced a bunch of Greek crooks to set up a dummy company called Defkalion to pretend to fight with him over the non-existent eCat, to perpetuate the illusion and spin it off into a competing mirror-scam and convinced his former partners to set up another company called Ampenergo to pretend that they had a contract for The Americas for a substantial sum or that they just did this with no proof because they have worked with Rossi and trust him because he’s such a fine fellow, arranged for Piantelli, Miley and a host of others to try to fool the world into thinking that cold fusion was real, got NASA, SPAWAR, The Defense Threat Reduction Agency and The Defense Intelligence Agency to say nice things about the field, got Bushnell to make a fool of himself, sold his profitable company to his ex-partners in order to spend that wealth on a multi-million dollar scam; certain that once he got all the above ducks in a row he would pretend to sell the first device and then reel in the true target of his dastardly plan – the second (this time genuine) buyer of a 1MW plant that will net him $2 million dollars until they want their money back or sucker a $100 million dollar deal under the table because he has experience in pulling the wool over all these idiotic eyes and knows that they will just take his word for it and not want to test if his 1MW plant can heat a small village without truckloads of coal or oil or a big fat electric cable coming into the container from beneath the floor (no you can’t lift the carpet!) and that, in order to pull this off, Rossi had to risk discovery by interviewing all the people he subsequently fooled so that he could only invite the gullible Professors and not the brilliant anonymous posters on the Internet who surely would have found him out – then all bets are off and I’m with the guys who think that Rossi is an idiot and they are all geniuses .

Boy, mainstream physics must be severely threatened if you have to resort to this asinine wall of breathless, completely unreadable text as your supposed "response."

More than anything else, your utterly ridiculous and obviously contrived and cognitively manipulative reply makes me think that these guys have actually developed commercially viable cold fusion.

[El Sordo]

I’m highly skeptical that it’s time to railroad yet...

[E. Pluribus Unum]

This is "science" in the same sense that climate change is "science."

[BereanBrain]

No, let’s be honest.

Global Warming, or Climate change is an open conspiracy between pay-for-postulates scientists, globalists, and eco-nuts.

E-Cat is, at worst, a small scale fraud. At best, maybe a usable heat source.

Please do NOT paint both with the same brush. Global Warming is 100% junk, for sure. Jury still out on E-cat (although there is the smell of fraud, there is no proof yet, so we should give the benefit of a doubt). Long term, the truth will come out.

[dangus]

If E-Cat works, the customers will report its success to their friends, and word will get out. Once they have a customer, we don’t HAVE to believe them, but at the same time, they have nothing to ask from us.

[dangus]

I hate to say it, but suppose this reaction does NOT create energy. With the price of copper, this device might be worth it for the alchemy alone :^D

[Kevmo]

Boy, mainstream physics must be severely threatened if you have to resort to this asinine wall of breathless, completely unreadable text as your supposed “response.”
***Response? It’s the first post in the thread.

More than anything else, your utterly ridiculous and obviously contrived and cognitively manipulative reply
***Reply to what? What are you jabbering on about?

makes me think that these guys have actually developed commercially viable cold fusion.
***Your writing is no better than the blurb I posted.

[Kevmo]

Then feel free to refute the science behind the facts generated on the ground.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Then feel free to refute the science behind the facts generated on the ground.

What's "on the ground" is a black-box.

That ain't science.

[Kevmo]

But there are scientific facts being generated. Feel free to refute them. If you can.

[Eye of Unk]

I bet it will be buried and the whole thing will get “Palinized”

Big oil both domestic and abroad doesn’t want to hear this, electric energy groups from the very top all the way to battery manufacturers won’t be too enthusiastic. They will repress this politically because if say within a decade word leaks out, plans leak out and the average person can make his own unit and use it at home, at work and for transportation the taxation of fuels, energy and such will plummet.

I believe it worked and that it most definitely is scaring a lot of people. It will upset a lot of people. Probably the biggest threat ironically may come from Islam. just think about it it, Islam has never embraced new technology.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

But there are scientific facts being generated. Feel free to refute them. If you can.

There are "scientific facts being generated" in the same sense that sexual-harassment accusations are being generated against Herman Cain.

[Kevmo]

Try to stay on topic.

[Windflier]

Kev, how ‘bout a few paragraph breaks in that? I’ve been trying to read it every time you post it, but it’s just blinding. Thanks.

[RBIEL2]

Maybe this should be posted in the religion forum. wink,wink

[Kevmo]

I believe it worked and that it most definitely is scaring a lot of people.
***There aren’t that many options for the competition other than to try to buy it with big piles of money. They missed their big opportunity to sabotage the experiment. The next big opportunity is to plant fake evidence of a fraud, which so many would be willing to believe.

I don’t think they would bump Rossi off because it would draw too much attention.

[STARWISE]

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