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To: HiTech RedNeck
It's not a "spiritual system";no matter what you claim.

I didn't post any "fluff", but I DID post unassailable facts.

We get it...........you hate and fear the Masons and I do remember you from other ignorant, sophistic, puerile anti-Masonic posts in the past. But for you to believe THIS nonsensical MUSLIM drivel, is just mind boggling!

There is NOT,by-the-by, "almost solid small-o orthodox Christian unity in repudiating that spiritual system"! Yes, Roman Catholicism now forbids their membership from being Masons ( and started their own version;THE KNIGHTS OF COLUMBUS, as a distraction/alternative ) after being talked into it. And it's a long, involved story, but if you want those facts, I will give them to you.

Methodists, Episcopalians, and Presbyterians aren't against the Masons. If you want proof of that,I'll supply it.

But YOU have done nothing but post unadulterated codswallop,so you haven't a leg to stand on!

23 posted on 11/11/2011 10:26:03 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Indeed, I would not be surprised that if you go far enough Arminian, then you get your supply of “good men” that you need, hence Methodists and Episcopalians, who are not usually known today for their fervor for the bible.

Approaching the Calvinist axis makes it more likely for one to follow a biblical doctrine that men are born bad, sinners in need of salvation. If Masons made it a point that they want “saved sinners” rather than “good men” they might be worth a second look. If you think I have an unusually “guilty” conscience (and in fact that would put me in company with Paul, who well after his conversion called himself the “worst” (or chief) of sinners), I think you have an unusually “whitewashed” conscience. My conscience constantly needs blood washing, the blood of the Lamb of Calvary. God says in his Word, that I take seriously and believe, that nothing else will do, not even for the tiniest transgression. Because God is interested in creating of me a heavenly creature for heaven — not for earth.

I think the Roman Catholics weren’t so stupid in pushing their Knights of Columbus parachurch organization. Evangelical churches have “men’s clubs” which have no extrabiblical rituals. Sometimes you get things like Promise Keepers that more or less succeed in being trans-denominational. None put a system of spirituality over the gospel that you will never in a million years get out of the bible, or at most, from duly constituted church authorities (and here’s where denominations disagree in particulars if not in principle).


25 posted on 11/12/2011 4:09:15 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (bloodwashed not whitewashed)
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To: nopardons

J. S. M. Ward, the author of several standard Masonic works, defines religion as “a system of teaching moral truth associated with a belief in God” and then declares: “I consider Freemasonry is a sufficiently organized school of mysticism to be entitled to be called a religion.” He goes on to say: “I boldly aver that Freemasonry is a religion, yet in no way conflicts with any other religion, unless that religion holds that no one outside its portals can be saved” (Freemasonry: Its Aims and Ideals, pp. 182, 185, 187).


26 posted on 11/12/2011 4:17:36 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (bloodwashed not whitewashed)
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To: nopardons
We get it...........you hate and fear the Masons and I do remember you from other ignorant, sophistic, puerile anti-Masonic posts in the past.

See how the POWER© has been harnessed!

Hate and Fear are rearing their ugly heads!!

62 posted on 11/14/2011 5:12:48 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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