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Santorum & Gingrich 2012: One must yield or the Party will be hi-jacked once again
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Posted on 01/09/2012 7:39:18 AM PST by publius321

Santorum & Gingrich cannot win "attacking" one another and attacking Romney will prove a waste of time... (video commentary)

(I will have the transcript to post later for those who loathe video commentary.)

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: gingrich; primary; romney; santorum
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To: CSI007

Your nuts!

I would back that up with policy, but you do not back up what your saying with truth or policy facts when talking about Newt. What planet are you on saying Newt is a self identified progressive?
Please....


61 posted on 01/09/2012 10:58:41 AM PST by astratt7 (obama,muslim,politics)
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To: WellyP

The two Ricks are going to have to drop out so Newt can close the deal.


62 posted on 01/09/2012 11:24:23 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Big_Harry; All

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Maybe having your social security cut doesn’t bother you.
Well congratulations on your good fortune,
but millions of our seniors depend on SS that they have paid into all their working lives. They only got a very small cost of living increase this year after three years.
With the rise in cost of rent, groceries, gas, etc, most are just barely getting by.

Regardles of what you call SS- ‘entitlement’, socialism
WHATEVER, our seniors had money withheld to take care of them in their senior years.
So it was spent? So?
They still paid, and the d*mn government better give it back.
They earned it.
It’s ALL most of them have.

Cut the d*mn welfare, food stamps, subsidised housing, cut medicaid and all the programs designed for the deadbeats who refuse to work, sit on their a$$es and breed new welfare Search recipients.
Kick the illegal aliens who are sucking the U.S dry out.
Stop throwing billions down Islamic sh*t holes as Omuslim has been doing.
The LAST place they should look to cutting expenses is off the back of our seniors!!

My family does a lot of charity work with elders. I know this to be a fact.
One lady we know has had a low paying job during her working years. She only gets around $650.00 a month. She has no other income. She is sick and alone.
Would you like to see her meager income cut? Just let her die to save a few bucks? After all, she’s 82. What use is she? (Well maybe we won’t have to worry about her and others like her when Obamacare and the death panels go into effect)

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The average American hasn’t a CLUE how much of our tax money Obama has sent down Muslim sh*t holes while he plans to slash the military, threatens to cut medicare and withold senior’s social security checks!

BILLIONS FOR JIHAD!

Obamas 2009 Supplemental Appropriations for Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Pandemic Flu was revised and passed by the full committee.
It gives billions http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2009/05/1...
of U.S. taxpayer dollars to countries and entities that support Sharia law and/or harbor, hide and support those who want to destroy the U.S. and our allies.
Read the summary from David Obeys office that was quietly released last week with nary a word from any media.

$3.6 BILLION, matching the request, to expand and improve capabilities of the Afghan security forces

$400 MILLION, as requested, to build the counterinsurgency capabilities of the Pakistani security forces
AFGHANISTAN: $1.52 BILLION, $86 MILLION above the request
WEST BANK AND GAZA: $665 MILLION in bilateral economic, humanitarian, and security assistance for the West Bank and Gaza

JORDAN: $250 million,$250 million above the request, including $100 million for economic and $150 million for security assistance

EGYPT: $360 MILLION, $310 million above the request, including $50 million for economic assistance,$50 million for border security, and $260 million for security assistance

PAKISTAN:$1.9 billion,$591 million above the request
IRAQ:$968 MILLION,$336 million above the request

Oversight:$20 million,$13 million above the request, to expand oversight capacity of the State Department, USAID, and the Special Inspector General for Afghanistan to review programs in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq

Lebanon:$74 million

International Food Assistance:$500 MILLION,$200 million above the request, for PL 480 international food assistance to alleviate suffering during the global economic crisis

REFUGEE ASSISTANCE:$343 MILLION,$50 million above the request, including humanitarian assistance for Gaza. Funding for the UN Relief and Works Agency programs in the West Bank and Gaza is limited to $119 million (Note: Gaza = Hamas)

Disaster Assistance:$200 MILLION to avert famines and provide life-saving assistance during natural disasters and for internally displaced people around the world, including Somalia, Zimbabwe, Ethiopia, the Middle East and South Asia

Peacekeeping:$837 MILLION FOR UNITED NATIONS peacekeeping operations, including an expanded mission in the Democratic Republic of the Congo and a new mission in Chad and the Central African Republic

Department of Justice:$17 million, matching the request, for counter-terrorism activities and to provide training and assistance for the Iraqi criminal justice system
Obama gives your tax dollars to rebuild Muslim mosques around the world

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/... #

ACCORDING TO THE ASSOCIATED PRESS, THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION WILL GIVE AWAY NEARLY $6 MILLION OF AMERICAN TAX DOLLARS TO RESTORE 63 HISTORIC AND CULTURAL SITES, INCLUDING ISLAMIC MOSQUES AND MINARETS, IN 55 NATIONS. See the State Department document here.
http://exchanges.state.gov/media/pdfs/office-...

And THAT’S just the tip of the iceberg.
THIS will blow your mind!!
http://gbk.eads.usaidallnet.gov/
They should have 2010 up, but they don’t. That’s where you’ll find Obama’s largesse towards Muslim countries really go off the charts.
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http://www.foreignassistance.gov/DataView.aspx
charts:
http://gbk.eads.usaidallnet.gov/data/fast-facts.html
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U.S. Spending At Least $18.6 Million Per Day to Incarcerate
illegal aleins
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/us-spending-least-186-million-day-incarcerate-illegal-aliens-more-195000-illegal-aliens

Educating Children Of Illegal Aliens Costs $28.6 Billion Per Year
http://www.diggersrealm.com/mt/archives/001110.html

DARK SIDE of ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION YEARLY COSTS

Illegal aliens are enormously involved identity fraud. Costs are unknown.

Illegal aliens are involved in a plethora of other criminal activities including such crimes involving methamphetamine, cocaine, home invasion, auto insurance fraud, life insurance fraud, food stamp fraud, mortgage fraud, auto theft, drug trafficking, prostitution, and counterfeiting documents. Costs are unknown.

At the end of 2003, approximately 267,000 illegal aliens were incarcerated in U.S. correctional facilities. $6.8B
Mac Johnson estimates that illegal aliens murder between 1,806 and 2,510 people in the U.S. annually, an average of 2,158 murders. (Representative King states illegal aliens are responsible for 4,380 murders) $8.4 BILLION

According to FBI Estimates on Number of Arrests in 2005 in the United States and applying a straight 5% of population representation, illegal aliens would have committed 704,709 crimes in 2005. Based on an average of $25,000 per crime, the costs would be $17.6 billion. Some estimates have their involvement much higher. $17.6 BILLION

Based on a GAO report of 55,322 illegal aliens incarcerated in federal, state, and local facilities during 2003 and extrapolating the average number of offenses out across all 267,000 incarcerated illegal alien criminals results in some 1,288,619 crimes! Based on an average of $25,000 per crime, the costs would be $32.2 billion. Another estimated 240,000 criminal illegal aliens are not incarcerated. $32.2 BILLION

Professor David Anderson reports that the net annual burdened costs of crime, in 2006 dollars that would be $1.62 TRILLION. A 5% illegal alien participation would be $81 BILLION. Some studies indicate the participation of illegal aliens is much higher than representation. $81B
80,000 to 100,000 illegal aliens who have been convicted of serious crimes still walk the streets. As previously noted, based on studies, those illegal alien criminal will commit 13 offenses each. Total costs are unknown.

An estimated 2,258,550 pounds of cocaine made it through the southern border with an estimated street value conservatively estimated $72.2 BILLION. Resulting costs of the associated crime is unknown. Assume 50% is paid for through crime. $36.1 BILLION

There are currently over 400,000 unaccounted for illegal alien criminals with outstanding deportation orders. Those are just the ones apprehended. At least one fourth of these are hard core criminals. Resulting costs are unknown.

Researcher Deborah Schurman-Kauflin Ph.D. of the Violent Crimes Institute, reports that the illegal alien population includes 240,000 sex offenders – a “conservative estimate.” Based on studies, they will commit 130,909 sex crimes annually. Using $50,000 as the average total economic impact, resulting costs are: $6.5 BILLION

63% of the sexual crimes, 82,473 victims, were committed by previously deported perverts who returned to commit the crime. Using $50,000 as the average total economic impact, this would be $4.1 BILLION - more than the cost of a proper border fence along the southern border. . $4.1 BILLION

Operation Predator resulted in 6,085 child predator arrests. Some pedophile statistics report that each pedophile molests average of 148 children. If so, that could be as many as 900,580 victims. Resulting costs are unknown.

Gangs Or Us estimates that MS-13 has over 15,000 members and associates in at least 115 different cliques in 33 states, and these numbers are continually increasing. .Resulting costs are unknown.

In one report, mostly illegal alien Hispanics were involved in 25% of the fatal traffic accidents, an astounding 5 times as much participation as representation. In those accidents, 75% of the drivers had no auto insurance, nearly all of the vehicles driven by migrants were registered to other drivers, and 93% of the vehicles had false out-of-state tags. Resulting costs are unknown.

Illegal aliens are often involved in DWIs at a rate that is 3-6 times greater than their representation in the population. Resulting costs are unknown.

At a 5% representation, illegal aliens are responsible for 844 alcohol related fatalities. Data suggests their participation is actually far higher. (Rep.King states that illegal aliens were responsible for 4,745 alcohol related fatalities. If so, that would 5.6 times as many deaths as representation.) Resulting costs are unknown.

Based on NHTSA data and a 5% participation rate, illegal are responsible for 309,050 accidents, 2,132 deaths, 139,400 injuries, and a cost of $11.5 billion. Data suggest their involvement is much higher, maybe 3-5 times higher. $11.5 BILLION

Half of all children born to Hispanic Americans in 2002 were illegitimate, twice the rate for American whites and 42 percent higher than the overall American rate. Rates are suspected of being even higher for Hispanic illegal aliens. Resulting costs are unknown.

There are an estimated 5.1 million ESL students in the USA. If 90% of the ESL students are children of illegal aliens then the education costs for children of illegal aliens is about $34.5 billion per year. $34.5 BILLION

Many illegal aliens are carrying horrific third world diseases. In the 40 years prior to 2002, there were only 900 total cases of leprosy in the US. In the following three years there have been 9,000 cases. TB is epidemic in many illegal alien communities and a new Multiple-Drug-Resistant (MDR) TB is spreading. Each person infected with TB will infect 10 others. Treating a single case of MDR TB costs between $250,000 and $1,200,000 per person. Resulting costs are unknown.

Between March 2000 and March 2005, only 9 percent of the net increase in jobs for adults went to people born in the US but natives accounted for 61 percent of the net increase in the overall size of the 18- to 64-year-old population. The jobs were taken mostly by illegal aliens, displacing native born Americans. Resulting costs are unknown.

The National Academy of Science reported that from 1980 to 1995 there was a 44% of the decline in the real wages of high school dropouts as a result of immigration. This affects Black and Hispanics Americans the greatest and is a great contributor to the high unemployment rate in this segment of the population. Resulting costs are unknown.

Harvard Professor George Borjas has reported that illegal aliens displaced American workers at a cost in excess of $133 billion dollars in 2005. $133 BILLION

The Wall Street investment firm Bear Stearns states we are losing $35 billion a year in income tax collections from jobs that are now off the books. $35 BILLION

National Academy of Sciences study estimated that immigration’s net benefit to the American economy is only $10 billion. This item is included to illustrate one of the very few real economic benefits of tolerating illegal aliens. Most of the other benefits of illegal aliens “doing the work that Americans won’t” at lower wages goes into the pockets of their employers. -$10BILLION

A Rice University study calculated that in 2006 the net annual cost of legal and illegal immigration will add up to $108 billion. Illegal immigration is about half the total. $54 BILLION

The population of the USA recently crossed the 300,000,000. At the present growth rate, it will hit 400 million as early as 2029 and about 500 million in 2050. And if things don’t change real fast, maybe even a Billion by 2075. Additional infrastructure costs will be in the TRILLIONS. ?
Immigration will account for 96 percent of the future increase in the school-age population over the next 50 years. Cost to the infrastructure is unknown.

A recent report notes that illegals sent and estimated $45 Billion south in 2006, which was up from an estimated $30 Billion in 2004. That money leaving the economy does not produce secondary jobs here. Using a 2:1 money multiplier, that is $90 billion removed from the American economy. $90B
A Census Bureau study estimates that households headed by illegal aliens used $10 billion more in government services than they paid in taxes in 2002. These figures are only for the federal government; costs at the state and local level are also significant. The study also finds that if illegal aliens were given amnesty, the fiscal deficit at the federal level would grow by nearly $29 billion. $10-29 BILLION

Jonathan Weisman of the Washington Post states “The Senates embattled immigration bill would raise government spending by as much as $126 BILLION over the next decade, $12.6 BILLION

For much more information on the costs of the collateral damage of illegal immigration see the ADDENDUM.

While some of the costs summarized above are subsets, e.g. cost of the murders as part of the cost of crime, as you can see the economic costs of tolerating illegal immigration is quite considerable. You are paying for it in terms of higher taxes, insurance premiums, et cetera.

Some estimates place the net costs of each illegal alien in the country at $50,000 – $100,000. (FYI: 12,000,000 X $50,000 = $600,000,000,000) When the all the indirect costs are factored in, it is probably even higher. In any case, it is a cost that YOU are paying for.

http://www.usillegalaliens.com/the_costs_of_illegal_immigration.html

What has Santorum said about trillions wasted on foreign aid?
Rick Perry said in his administration every country now receiving foreign aid would start out a ZERO.

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63 posted on 01/09/2012 11:54:08 AM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: astratt7

I have heard newt on more than one occasion refer to himself as a progressive republican. Look it up..There are sound bites of him saying this if you “think I am nuts”.


64 posted on 01/09/2012 2:00:48 PM PST by CSI007
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To: patriot08

We will see what shake out in these primaries. In SC, I am supporting Santorum. Vote for whomever you wish.


65 posted on 01/09/2012 2:12:19 PM PST by Big_Harry (Ecc10:2 "A wise man's heart is at his right hand; but a fool's heart at his left")
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To: patriot08

We will see what shakes out in these primaries. In SC, I am supporting Santorum. Vote for whomever you wish.


66 posted on 01/09/2012 2:12:50 PM PST by Big_Harry (Ecc10:2 "A wise man's heart is at his right hand; but a fool's heart at his left")
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To: Big_Harry

I am primarily for Newt Gingrich, but I will support whatever candidate, Newt, Santorum, or Perry, that gets the most votes in the SC primary.


67 posted on 01/09/2012 2:17:45 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: Big_Harry

I certainly will vote for whomever I wish- and it won’t be for someone who wants to save a few bucks off the backs of our seniors.


68 posted on 01/09/2012 2:39:53 PM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: WellyP

Santorum and Newt would both beat Obama in debate, and either one of them would be a life-saving change in the White House. But I support Newt because I think we need a president who will continue to teach in office: who we are as Americans, what our founding documents mean, why America is exceptional, and what we need to do to reclaim that heritage. We need an informed citizenry in order to hold our elected officials accountable, and we need a renewed dedication to personal responsibility if we are to defeat the wolf of socialism at our door.


69 posted on 01/09/2012 3:03:39 PM PST by Wife of D28Man
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To: ez

“I am primarily for Newt Gingrich, but I will support whatever candidate, Newt, Santorum, or Perry, that gets the most votes in the SC primary.”

I don’t have anything against Newt, but I feel that Santorum has a better chance of pulling the Dem cross over voters. If Newt gets the nod, I would vote for him.


70 posted on 01/10/2012 5:33:04 AM PST by Big_Harry (Ecc10:2 "A wise man's heart is at his right hand; but a fool's heart at his left")
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To: Timber Rattler; Ingtar; Lazlo in PA; American Constitutionalist; Antoninus; AuH2ORepublican; ...
>> Many of Santorum’s voters would more likely remain home than vote for Newt or Mitt. <<
>> Yep, I'll vote for neither.
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I'm a Santorum supporter and you can add me to the "Won't vote for Newt or Mitt if Santorum drops out" category. Really tired of hearing Newt's supporters constantly trash Santorum for endorsing Specter under pressure when their guy happily endorsed Scozzafava. Hypocrisy isn't going to win them any supporters.

71 posted on 01/10/2012 11:23:18 PM PST by BillyBoy (Illegals for Perry/Gingrich 2012 : Don't be "heartless"/ Be "humane")
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To: publius321

exactly....and even then it may be too late

Romney creamed Newt in Iowa with 14 million in neg ads

many here clapped

hope you dumbasses are now happy


72 posted on 01/10/2012 11:28:11 PM PST by wardaddy (I fear we cannot beat Roger Ailes and beltway GOP)
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To: Ingtar
Many of Newt’s followers seem ready to vote for ORomney than vote for Santorum.

I want to know where you get whatever you are snorting?

73 posted on 01/10/2012 11:29:30 PM PST by wardaddy (I fear we cannot beat Roger Ailes and beltway GOP)
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To: BillyBoy
>> Many of Santorum’s voters would more likely remain home than vote for Newt or Mitt. << >> Yep, I'll vote for neither. <<

" I'm a Santorum supporter and you can add me to the "Won't vote for Newt or Mitt if Santorum drops out" category. Really tired of hearing Newt's supporters constantly trash Santorum for endorsing Specter under pressure when their guy happily endorsed Scozzafava. Hypocrisy isn't going to win them any supporters. "

I don't know if your a Evangelical, but, let those who want to appeal to the independents, and Democrats and tell the Evangelicals go sit at the back of the bus and shut up...
The RINOS and centralist want the religious right to get out of the GOP.... however ? you ignore us at your own peril.
The GOP might as well become the Democratic Party.. they are all the same now...
74 posted on 01/11/2012 5:39:36 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Proud2BeRight
" Santorum in the POTUS although the thought of Gingrich dismantling Obama in a debate would be fun to watch. "


A American Idol Debater does not make a President of the USA...
75 posted on 01/11/2012 5:41:44 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: publius321
If all those people who vote and judge their presidential candidate because he is a good debater, then our country is in really more big trouble....
That is one of the most shallow reasons to pick a president.
76 posted on 01/11/2012 5:44:21 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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