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We won in Afghanistan years ago – we deposed the Taliban and chased out Al Qaida – and since then we’ve been spilling our blood for people who hate us, throwing our money at people who rob us, and destabilizing our future for a nation that isn’t a nation.
1 posted on 02/27/2012 5:24:40 AM PST by shortstop
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Obama’s War. Shout it from the rooftops.


2 posted on 02/27/2012 5:26:01 AM PST by shortstop (It's too bad that stupidity isn't painful)
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My guess is the Koran burning spectacle was planned from the beginning, this is all part of the islamafication of the world plan ...

Wait till we lose the 2012 election, you ain’t seen nothin’ yet as compared to what is coming.


3 posted on 02/27/2012 5:29:21 AM PST by Scythian
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how ‘bout we level what poor excuses for cities, they have, from the air, then wave the bird at ‘em as we leave them to their own devices....


5 posted on 02/27/2012 5:30:59 AM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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Pull our people out and then nuke the bastards!


6 posted on 02/27/2012 5:31:39 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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We don’t starch uniforms anymore...


7 posted on 02/27/2012 5:32:19 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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We will never win a war by groveling for peace
10 posted on 02/27/2012 5:34:28 AM PST by tomkat (FUbo)
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amen and amen

When you’re wounded and left on Afghanistan’s plains,
And the women come out to cut up what remains,
Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains
An’ go to your Gawd like a soldier.
Go, go, go like a soldier,
Go, go, go like a soldier,
Go, go, go like a soldier,
So-oldier ~of~ the Queen

——Kipling


11 posted on 02/27/2012 5:35:00 AM PST by silverleaf (Funny how all the people who are for abortion are already born)
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As I said on another thread, we should bomb our way out of there forthwith. Put to flame anything that moves and vacate. Now. Screw them... and NEVER.. EVER.. so much as a single drop of American blood for muslim filth!

We achieved our military objective by early 2002 and should’ve been out of there long ago.


12 posted on 02/27/2012 5:39:33 AM PST by ScottinVA (GOP, meet Courage... Courage, meet GOP.)
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Our entire operating premise – to win hearts and minds – is failed. It is ill-conceived and doomed. From the jungles of Vietnam to the back alleys of Iraq and the mountains of Afghanistan, we can’t kiss enough arse, we can’t write enough checks, we can’t issue enough apologies. We will never win a war by groveling for peace. Because, no matter what the generals say, it’s not about building schools and clinics. It’s not about putting in wells and wires, it’s about killing the other guy and breaking the will of his society.

Lonsberry is spot on, adsodadgumlutely right. When our leaders can't even muster the courage to call our enemies by their names, we are destined to spend our treasure and our sons' lives into bankruptcy and defeat.

13 posted on 02/27/2012 5:39:47 AM PST by Always A Marine
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I enlisted during Vietnam at age 17.

I’ve NEVER said we should leave anywhere.

We should leave Afghanistan and nail our enemies from the air.
Drones and other.


15 posted on 02/27/2012 5:40:27 AM PST by G Larry (We are NOT obliged to carry the snake in our pocket and then dismiss the bites as natural behavior.)
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We have been trying to reuse the “Marshall Plan” model for decades. While it frequently works, it doesn’t always. It seems that the majority of the Afghan people want to keep living the way their ancestors did 1000 years ago. Fine.

For these cases, we need another model. I favor just cordoning them off from the rest of the world and let them live like savages. No troops, no diplomats, no infrastructure. Just let ‘em stew in the own pig sty. But monitor it closely from above. And bomb the crap out of any Al Qaeda stronghold they manage to construct there.


17 posted on 02/27/2012 5:43:55 AM PST by rbg81 (scillian's)
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The key as I can see it is not to let the extremists claim they are forcing us out but make it clear that we are leaving voluntarily. The threat of the return of American involvement with air attacks if they openly support terrorist training camps should be made plain. Odumba can’t make this look like a surrender.


18 posted on 02/27/2012 5:45:31 AM PST by dog breath
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This is what we should've been doing to every population center in that POS country.... just as was done to Dresden in WWII.
19 posted on 02/27/2012 5:46:07 AM PST by ScottinVA (GOP, meet Courage... Courage, meet GOP.)
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We have to stay. Al Qaida will move right back in if we leave.


20 posted on 02/27/2012 5:46:41 AM PST by Wolfie
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Even in retrospect, I have no problem with our going into Iraq or Afghanistan. Where I parted company with Bush, is that I have no compassion for muslims and would have devastated them, then pulled out. I would not have spent one cent to rebuild or or occupy them. I would have let them know that were they to reconstitute themselves into another threat to us, we would return with more devastation.

No matter what you do for or to a muslim, at the end of the day you are still the infidel and they will always hate you.


24 posted on 02/27/2012 5:51:35 AM PST by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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I can’t disagree with a single word he said. I especially like this:

“It’s about blowing him to hell and leaving the next guy shaking in his boots so bad that he throws down his gun and runs. Peace is on the other side of victory, and victory comes from smashing the living snot out of any person, nation, culture, tribe, organization or religion that dares look at you cross-eyed.”

If a presidential candidate gave a speech like this he would win in a landslide.


26 posted on 02/27/2012 5:55:08 AM PST by albionin
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The last three presidents have done poorly. While President Obama has given it his usual unique touch, blame also goes to President George W. Bush for not undertaking an overwhelming punitive Afghan mission while the WTC ruins were still smoking. The biggest blame of the three presidents goes to President Clinton who had other things he felt more important to do than a undertake a serious and quick full effort to stop the attacks before they reached the US. Clinton, more than Bush and Obama put together, failed America.
30 posted on 02/27/2012 5:59:50 AM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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I agree, except for one part “we deposed the Taliban”. The Taliban are not going anywhere, no matter how long we are there and how many troops we send. They are like cockroaches. Kill one and miss the hundred we don’t see. The Sh##Hole is not worth another drop of American blood. Mexico is the most immediate threat to us, and we are ignoring it entirely. Mexico is where the next 9/11 terrorist will enter from, and the drug cartels are where they will get the money and support to do their dirty deeds. That is where out troops need to be, clearing out the murderous scum there.


36 posted on 02/27/2012 6:12:15 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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“We tried. It didn’t work. Screw ‘em. Let’s come home.”

Two super powers in the last century and the beginning of this century have poured their resources and life blood into bringing that place into the civilized and developed world.

No other place on earth, with as much foreign money, material and assistance would YET remain as backward, poor, brutal, underdeveloped and generally hopeless!!

It they are backward, poor, brutal, underdeveloped and generally hopeless...it is by THEIR choice. It's what they want above all else.

Time for us to go!

38 posted on 02/27/2012 6:19:12 AM PST by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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Get the troops out, then nuke ‘em from orbit.


39 posted on 02/27/2012 6:21:44 AM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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