To: ProgressingAmerica
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Progressives do not want to discuss their own history. I want to discuss their history.
Summary: Wilson's comments during the "glorious revolution"
2 posted on
03/03/2012 9:08:50 AM PST by
ProgressingAmerica
(What's the best way to reach a you tube generation? Put it on you tube!)
To: ProgressingAmerica
So too did Newt Gingrich praise and adore Woodrow Wilson, and even called himself a “ Wilsonian “ .
To: ProgressingAmerica
He’s referring to the overthrow of Czar Nicholas II and the Provisional Government led by Alexander Kerensky in February/March of 1917.
The Bolshevik Revolution did not occur until October/November 1917.
(Julian Calendar/Gregorian Calendar, Russia was on the Julian Calendar until after the Reds took over)
4 posted on
03/03/2012 9:15:09 AM PST by
GreenLanternCorps
("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Jimmy Carter".)
To: ProgressingAmerica
he problem is their definition of freedom. Wilson, like the Bolsheviks, had a belief in collective freedom, and freedom for the state. Not freedom for the individual.
Amd that's not really freedom at all because not all people want the same things but are forced to support or even pay for what others want (like birth control or Chevy Volts)
7 posted on
03/03/2012 9:21:09 AM PST by
cripplecreek
(What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
To: ProgressingAmerica
Does not every American feel that assurance has been added to our hope for the future peace of the world by the wonderful and heartening things that have been happening within the last few weeks in Russia? 60 million dead in the gulags might disagree, but who cares? Omelets and eggs, that's all.
8 posted on
03/03/2012 9:24:08 AM PST by
denydenydeny
(The more a system is all about equality in theory the more it's an aristocracy in practice.)
To: ProgressingAmerica
In April of 1917, when Wilson made those remarks, the Reds did not control the Russian Revolution.
Russian Revolution Timeline.
1917
February 23-27 (March 8-12 NS) - The February Revolution begins with strikes, demonstrations, and mutinies in Petrograd (also called the March Revolution if following the Gregorian calendar)
March 2 (March 15 NS) - Czar Nicholas II abdicates and includes his son. The following day, Nicholas' brother, Mikhail announced his refusal to accept the throne. Provisional Government formed
April 3 (April 16 NS) - Lenin returns from exile and arrives in Petrograd via a sealed train
July 3-7 (July 16-20 NS) - The July Days begin in Petrograd with spontaneous protests against the Provisional Government; after the Bolsheviks unsuccessfully try to direct these protests into a coup, Lenin is forced into hiding
July 11 (July 24 NS) - Alexander Kerensky becomes Prime Minister of the Provisional Government
August 22-27 (September 4-9 NS) - The Kornilov Affair, a failed coup by General Lavr Kornilov, commander of the Russian Army
October 25 (November 7 NS) - The October Revolution - the Bolsheviks take over Petrograd (also called the November Revolution if following the Gregorian calendar)
October 26 (November 8 NS) - The Winter Palace, the last holdout of the Provisional Government, is taken by the Bolsheviks; the Council of People's Commissars (abbreviated as Sovnarkom), led by Lenin, is now in control of Russia
You can also read about the "Polar Bear" expidition here. In 1918, Willson sent the US Army into Russia to fight the Bolshivics (Reds) in support of the "White Russian" forces.
Wilson was a "Progressive" who did a lot of damage. But he wasn't a commie.
10 posted on
03/03/2012 9:33:36 AM PST by
Ditto
(Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
To: ProgressingAmerica
To: ProgressingAmerica
Kerensky was not a Bolshevik.
To: ProgressingAmerica
Newt's campaign is rapidly losing support and is hemorrhaging...
One of Newt's people in Tennessee jumped ship and endorsed Rick Santorum..
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