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The quaintness of America, the backwards superpower
Telegraph - UK ^ | March 10, 2012 | Peter Foster

Posted on 03/10/2012 7:36:57 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

Edited on 03/10/2012 7:39:16 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

At the outset of this post I would like to make the disclaimer that America is the greatest country on earth. It invented the iPad, after all; it put a man on the moon, not to mention giving voice to the great and noble precepts set down in the Declaration of Independence.

We Europeans tend to scoff slightly at all that lofty US guff about freedom and democracy, particularly when it is used as a cover for invading oil-rich parts of the Middle East – but go and live in China for three years, and you’ll quickly re-discover the point.

But – and I expect you guessed there would be a "but" here – as a new arrival to America I keep stumbling over things that I find gloriously, surprisingly – how to put this? – backward.


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: america; exceptionalism; freedom; power
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To: FrankR

Not really. The Brits were holding their own against the Germans in WWI. In WWII they would have retreated to their island and stayed there. Hitler was “fond” of the English considering them his Aryan brothers.


21 posted on 03/10/2012 8:02:03 AM PST by Cronos (Party like it's 12 20, 2012)
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To: martin_fierro

*Australian


22 posted on 03/10/2012 8:02:17 AM PST by ExGeeEye (Islam: a transnational fascist government that demands worship.)
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To: mnehring
it's not really a whine. He's got a lot of valid points -- when you are first in the game like we were, you get stuck with a lot of technology backlog. Like for instance, we still write checks and have ATM fees for using our cards on other bank automats. They don't have that in say India or China.

Also, our mobile phone bills are huge. India and China in comparison didn't even have much phone density until the 90s so they were able to leapfrog past all that to mobile phones and cheap talk time

However, the good thing is that we can then leapfrog past them :) later

23 posted on 03/10/2012 8:05:34 AM PST by Cronos (Party like it's 12 20, 2012)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
That's funny, I got the same sense of England. Toilets are quite the peculiar contraptions over there. I've known people who lived in gritty London flats, who had to feed coins to a timer on the wall to keep the electricity on. Almost everything outside the high streets and the financial district that is owned, occupied or used by everyday people has a slightly wacky ad hoc feel about it.

The United States is huge for a developed, first world country. Of course there are going to be regional variations, and not every place or every thing is going to live up to expectations formed via movies and television. Will some manage to out-America America in some regards as a result? Yes, but that's merely a validation of the American ideal. They're so immersed in Americanisms that they don't really realize just how Americanized they've become, they just look back and say “haha our cell service is better” or some other comparative minutia.

24 posted on 03/10/2012 8:07:30 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Cronos
...it's not really a whine.

No, its a whine... he may have some technical points, but he sounds like a 16 year old girl whose dad doesn't let her stay out late.

25 posted on 03/10/2012 8:08:00 AM PST by mnehring
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To: RegulatorCountry

How about $50 - $100 per day parking fees in London? Parking spaces half the size of ours. 1 pound to use a public restroom. Speed cameras every five miles, even on country roads. It is technically illegal to be drunk in a pub. Etc, etc, etc.


26 posted on 03/10/2012 8:13:03 AM PST by mnehring
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To: martin_fierro

His commenters are having a bit of fun with him at his site.


27 posted on 03/10/2012 8:21:26 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

We don’t use the “old Imperial system of measurements.” We use the US Customary Weights and Measures, adopted by Congress in 1830, which is similar yet different in numerous ways from the Imperial system.


28 posted on 03/10/2012 8:28:09 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: FrankR

This from a nation which requires a license, to watch television.


29 posted on 03/10/2012 8:30:49 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("The door is open" PALIN 2012)
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To: Cronos
He's got a lot of valid points

He certainly makes a valid point about Chinese freeways. Chinese road builders probably don't have to put up with the red tape that American road builders have to deal with--environmental impact reports, and the like.

It was different in the old days. In the summer of 1963, houses taken by public domain along the route of the San Gabriel River Freeway in Southern California began to be demolished. A year later, cars were driving on one section of the freeway, and by the summer of 1966, the freeway was completed. Today, it takes 20 years to improve an existing freeway, and one wouldn't even dream of building a new one.

30 posted on 03/10/2012 8:38:00 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I'm an American, I've lived in England for many years. There is a term / phrase that the Brits use that is not used in the states “taking the p*ss”. It can be translated as; making fun of, or mocking. Taking the p*ss out of Americans, and America is a favourite national pastime over here. They are obsessed with comparing Britain to the USA, they love us, and loathe us at the same time. I believe it stems from a national inferiority complex.
31 posted on 03/10/2012 8:42:46 AM PST by yank in the UK ( A liberal mocking Christianity. I asked "why don't you mock Islam?" he replied "Muslims are violent)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Once I was in Kiev and flushed a toilet. After our low environmentalist toilets, I was completely unprepared for a real toilet. It actually startled me. I thought I had pulled the lever on an ejection seat or something.
A second flush was NOT needed. Damn,,,


32 posted on 03/10/2012 8:47:08 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
He has some points.

Anyone who has ever driven the roads in Ohio and Michigan would agree. Those roads are horrible.

OK he had one good point but i do find it interesting how visiting foreigners adjust to being in the greatest country in the world.

33 posted on 03/10/2012 8:47:41 AM PST by Palin_Rubio2012
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To: FrankR
If this came from the UK they seem to forget that they would all be speaking German if it were not for this “backwards superpower”.

Oh, lighten up. There's not a thing in that article anyone should feel the least bit insulted over.

34 posted on 03/10/2012 9:06:25 AM PST by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Yeah, the comments thread is really good.


35 posted on 03/10/2012 9:09:26 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I agree with his point about the Metric System. It is much more logical and easy to use than the hodge-podge of random measurement standards we use in the US. I am tired of keeping two sets of tools.

However, I haven’t written a check in years. I prefer wine with a cork rather than screw top. I have 350 channels on my cable box and only watch about a half-dozen of them, anyway. We just happen to have much more to choose from.

Lastly, about the crappy roads: blame our idiot liberal politicians who waste the public treasury on social programs rather than road maintenance and view infrastructure spending as a means to pay off political donors.


36 posted on 03/10/2012 9:52:28 AM PST by EricT. (The GOP's sole purpose is to serve as an ineffective alternative to the Democrat Party.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Try to take a good, long hot shower at a typical home outside of London.

And those skinny roads with dozens of circles you have to go around to get anywhere.

And the rinky-dink golf-carts that pass for cars over there. Gad.

That is sophistication?

37 posted on 03/10/2012 10:09:56 AM PST by what's up
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Britain has their odd quirks as well. My brit-inlaws have houses where you have to unlock the doors with a key to get out. They have two spouts for cold and hot water. You have to buy the plugs for appliances separate...they do not come attached. There are some other oddities, but big deal. Different countries have different customs. My Brit born and raised wife says it’s much easier living in America than England. And from what I’ve seen, it appears most Brits live very well. At least my in-laws do. However, it’s a lot more expensive and a lot more crowded. But as they say in England, things may get a bit dodgy, but they’ll sort them out eventually. Cheers mate! (as my male in-laws frequently say)


38 posted on 03/10/2012 10:39:15 AM PST by driftless2
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To: yank in the UK

They love to “take the mickey” out of other people.


39 posted on 03/10/2012 10:42:52 AM PST by driftless2
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To: driftless2

Definitely taking the mickey


40 posted on 03/10/2012 11:07:02 AM PST by yank in the UK ( A liberal mocking Christianity. I asked "why don't you mock Islam?" he replied "Muslims are violent)
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