Posted on 03/13/2012 3:39:58 PM PDT by rxsid
I’ve never seen any evidence that he divorced his Kenyan wife or that she died prior to BHO, Sr.’s alleged marriage to SAD. Absent such evidence, the law would recognize he was still married to the Kenyan woman. If you have evidence that BHO, Sr.’s Kenyan marriage terminated prior to his alleged marriage to SAD, trot it out.
By your very comment you admit BHO, Sr. had a Kenyan wife. Again, unless you — or anyone — has evidence that marriage terminated, BHO, Sr.’s alleged marriage to SAD was invalid.
Good point!
If he were born in Canada, he would be a CANADIAN citizen.
The last time I looked Canada is in North America.
We have no patent on the term “American” like we do on the “United States of America”.
Only a lawyer would think like I stated, but he is a lawyer. Those are legal weasel words. Just like BJC’s definition of the meaning of the word “is”.
Very little about Obama, or Barry, or Soebarkah...or whatever his name might be, is factually known.
As far as an alleged "marriage" goes...the only legal document we have to go off of at this point are divorce papers from the Circuit Court of the First Judicial Circuit State of Hawaii, which states that:
Stanley Ann D. Obama and Barack H. Obama "were lawfully married in Wailuku, Maui, State of Hawaii, on February 2, 1961, by a person duly authorized to perform marriage cerimonies and ever since that date have been and are now husband and wife."
bfl.
DL: I think you may find this thread highly interesting.
“were lawfully married in Wailuku, Maui, State of Hawaii, on February 2, 1961, by a person duly authorized to perform marriage cer[e]monies...”
My limited understanding is that to make a marriage lawful, the “duly authorized person” must sign and date the marriage license, and file it within a set number of days with the clerk of the county court in which the marriage occurred. The clerk books the original, making the marriage “lawful” and “of record,” and prevents forging documents after the fact (to steal an inheritance for instance).
Lots of questions:
Searches for the records were reportedly unsuccessful. Why? No marriage records kept in Maui in 1961? Records kept but large sections now missing? Or, just this record missing?
Would it be possible to record the license in some other county, even if the marriage ceremony supposedly took place on Maui? (Seems bogus, but anything seems to go in HI).
Is it known if anyone has checked for such a public record in Oahu?
Right. So she supplied that detail to the lawyer, he noted it, the statement ends up on the document lodged for a divorce, she signs it and there you go...it's WORTHLESS, without a copy of the official marriage certificate. However, we have to consider that INS document from the kenyan's file, where he crossed out the name of 'wife' and replaced it with ANN S DUNHAM in August 1961, and left 'CHILDREN' BLANK ON A DATE AFTER ZERO WAS BORN. ANN S OBAMA was the name in the Polk Directory. She might very well have been the Filipino-looking girl shown with the kenyan in the dock welcome and at the Nachmannof social gathering. Probably the 'wife from whom he was separated living in the Philippines' if you recall that memo from the INS docs. He might have been married to someone with the name Ann S Obama but it wasn't Stanley Ann Dunham. Even the latest sham birth doc carries that on, you can see where ANN was the first name on one layer, and the (Stanley) was added in another. The first letter of the surname also showed in the layer with ANN. It was a 'D' - but if that name had been Dunham, they could have just left it there. Instead, they added UNHAM to the 'D'.
There was a comment in a 2006 article written by Roland Bankole Marke in Worldpress.org stating "...His father, who rose to become senior economist in the Treasury department died in 1982 in a car crash. He left three wives, six sons and a daughter...". So, they were counting Kezia, Stanley Ann, and Ruth. In this article, Stanley Ann is called "Shirley Ann". In the early days there was a lot of confusion as to what B.O.'s mother's name was. You'll find articles cached as Shirley Ann, Stanley Ann, Anne, and Anna. The spelling of his maternal grandmother would change to from Madeline to Madelyn and so on.
So it looks as though Virginia’s number was stolen shortly after her birth, right around when the child known now as BHO arrived in the US...but did he arrive in HI at that time? Or were people in HI arranging the papers before he even was brought there?
(Regarding our discussion on a recent thread):
If the child now known as BHO didn’t entered the USin the first week of Aug. 1961, and then shortly arrived in HI...then where was the photo of the two boys (one darker and one lighter) taken, must have been in HI.
UNLESS - the form you copied above with Madelyn spelled wrong - that one we’ve seen before, that now seems to fit into place - was filled out WITHOUT Zero even being in the state of HI yet?
Oops, correcting one sentence:
If the child now known as BHO entered the US in the first week of Aug. 1961....
‘Nother question. Where was the dark boy born, any ideas? What kind of BC did HE start off with?
>> “Why does the format of this article remind me of a supermarket tabloid?” <<
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Because that’s all you normally read?
Think about it...the way the names are spaced on that line, it seems there were three names there originally, it could have been something like ANN DOLORES ‘ANYNAME’ for example.
The (Stanley) has been added, the middle name becomes Dunham by the removal of all but the ‘D’ and the surname is replaced by OBAMA. Which, just btw, suggests the kenyan wasn’t married to the mother, who-ever she was.
You are paying homage to another great Mel Brooks film: "History of the World Part 1". But you get an "A" for effort. (Check the tagline.....)
going by the fact that all the incoming overseas flights that landed in Hawaii between August 1 and August 9, suggests there's an arrival we are not supposed to know about, doesn't it? (Regarding our discussion on a recent thread):
If the child now known as BHO didn’t entered the USin the first week of Aug. 1961, and then shortly arrived in HI...then where was the photo of the two boys (one darker and one lighter) taken, must have been in HI.
I think it becomes apparent that one was born in Hawaii, the other was an import. And yes, it seems that for the two little boys to have been together, Hawaii would be the most obvious. It begins to look as if the dark boy's mother was the woman who returned to the Philippines. Her child was the one Mary babysat in January 1961...as she said, when her own daughter, who was born in July 1959, was 18 months old.
UNLESS - the form you copied above with Madelyn spelled wrong - that one we’ve seen before, that now seems to fit into place - was filled out WITHOUT Zero even being in the state of HI yet?
That's possible. But the removal of the incoming flight information from overseas suggests otherwise...
CORRECTION:
I wrote - going by the fact that all the incoming overseas flights that landed in Hawaii between August 1 and August 9, ... HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM THE RECORD!
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