[Antoninus]

The nation can be saved, but trying to use morality lessons, when the patient is close to death on the operating table is probably not the best way to do it. Christianity + state sponsorship = inquisitions. Or do you forget your history?

The level of ignorance on this subject here on FR is astounding. Whenever reforms have been successfully accomplished in history, whether it be Rome, China, Byzantium, Persia, the Catholic Church, etc., such reforms have always been accompanied by a general revival and enforcement of moral norms. Indeed, without such a revival, all reforms will FAIL.

In our current state, you can pass all the laws you want and nothing will change. What is needed is a revival of authentic Christian values among the people who will then demand it of their leaders. Anything short will not revive this republic.

And yes, such a revival CAN be initiated from the top down. It can't be sustained that way, but it can be started.

[randomhero97]

Awesome! A Christian Ayatollah. Yeah, no thanks.

I will fight fascism in any form it shows its face in.

Besides, if there wasn't a demand then porn would be an afterthought. Parents need to be doing their jobs not the government.

[Westbrook]

> reforms have always been accompanied by a general revival
> and enforcement of moral norms. Indeed, without such a
> revival, all reforms will FAIL.
>
> In our current state, you can pass all the laws you want
> and nothing will change. What is needed is a revival of
> authentic Christian values among the people who will then
> demand it of their leaders. Anything short will not
> revive this republic.
>
> And yes, such a revival CAN be initiated from the top
> down. It can’t be sustained that way, but it can be
> started.
>

Great post, and bears repeating.

[Jonty30]

If there is revival in America, it will come from p2p contact or from the church pews, it will not come from government imposed morality.