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Could 2012 be America ‘s Last Presidential Election? by
World Press ^ | March 8, 2012 | Michael Savge

Posted on 03/17/2012 8:49:22 AM PDT by yoe

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To: cripplecreek

And the chances of getting strong conservative Rs in Congress is slim to none, and it appears that slim has left town.

We have a big R majority right now. Fat lot of good it does us. A bunch of new ones, supposedly staunch conservatives. Rarely hear a peep from any of them.


41 posted on 03/17/2012 11:57:43 AM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: SVTCobra03

I am not hiding in the room crying. I am thrilled by this primary is going. A President Santorum would make our country great again.


42 posted on 03/17/2012 11:57:59 AM PDT by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: Josephat; reagan_fanatic

Here it is, maybe someone posted it on the thread already but it won’t hurt to have it twice:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2860231/posts

Executive Order: National Defense Resources Preparedness
The White House ^ | 3/16/12 | The White House

Whole thing on FR, being discussed.


43 posted on 03/17/2012 11:59:37 AM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: Defiant; LucyT

It occurs to me that the reason that he doesn’t care about how much money he is spending is because it is meaningless. His goal is to collapse the system and start over. The trillions in debt that can’t be paid back don’t matter, because the goal is not to have that debt paid back and our obligations honored. It is to destroy the nation, so he can rebuild it in a Soviet, or Chavista, fashion. When that happens, you can guarantee that the wealth of the nation will be confiscated and redistributed.

This is the election of the millenium. It determines the fate of the nation, which determines the fate of the world. Will it be free or enslaved? Will government of the people perish, replaced by government of the wicked? Stay tuned.


That is it. LucyT, check out Defiant’s comment.


44 posted on 03/17/2012 12:02:29 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: melancholy

Amazing how many on this thread are pooh-poohing this.

It’s as clear as day.


45 posted on 03/17/2012 12:04:37 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: US_MilitaryRules

Democrats fighting corrupt Democrats.


46 posted on 03/17/2012 12:27:55 PM PDT by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: little jeremiah; mnehring; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; ...
Nutjob conspiracy list worthy?

Oh yeah...

Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you need only threaten to report me to the Admin if I don’t add you to the list...

47 posted on 03/17/2012 1:18:21 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1152 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: napscoordinator
No. The Democrats thought that 2004 was going to be the last Presidential election. Anytime the other party is in power, the party that is not in power thinks like is over and it never happens. I think even Republicans thought America was over when the Clinton’s were in office....lol

LOL, you are quite right. It always works this way. If a Republican wins in 2012 lots of lefties will be claiming the new President is going to end elections, setup FEMA concentration camps, etc, etc.

When Clinton was in office lots of conservatives thought he'd never leave until he passed away, that elections were over - there were all sorts of hairbrained conspiracy theories about exactly that. All that black helicopter stuff turned out to be the nonsense sensible folks recognized it for.

48 posted on 03/17/2012 1:25:32 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: yoe

2012 probably won’t be the last Presidential election.

But it probably will be the last one with more than one candidate on the ballot.


49 posted on 03/17/2012 1:27:57 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: US_MilitaryRules

Coming sooner than most realize, USMR.


50 posted on 03/17/2012 1:38:10 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (I'll "vote for an orange juice can", over Barry Obummer and another 4yrs of his Regime From Hell!)
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To: little jeremiah; Defiant; LucyT
This the MOST important election in our soon-to-be-gone Republic's existence, IMO.
51 posted on 03/17/2012 1:41:26 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (I'll "vote for an orange juice can", over Barry Obummer and another 4yrs of his Regime From Hell!)
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To: null and void

Take me off your list!


52 posted on 03/17/2012 2:02:57 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (No Romney vote from my family!)
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To: melancholy

“Anyone who lived under tyranny will tell you in a heartbeat that what’s happening here is nothing but a Communist takeover. There is no other way to explain it.”

You should talk to my American friends who came out of Moskow, and the Ukraine. They say EXACTLY this, and say the American people are asleep at the wheel!!


53 posted on 03/17/2012 2:09:03 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: null and void; little jeremiah
Nutjob conspiracy list worthy?

Oh yeah...

--------------------------------

There is an absolute tsunami of worthy threads today!

Did you see the one on Neal Cavuto's inflation warning?

54 posted on 03/17/2012 2:13:29 PM PDT by OwenKellogg
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To: stephenjohnbanker

When liberals replaced American history and civics with diversity tribal re-education, I was in a meeting where parents were ripped about it. A Russian mom sitting next to me whispered, “When they erase your history, you are in trouble.”

I think they are going for a NAU and global government but first they need to take total control over and crush the Americans-Americans. There is no doubt, they ditched the constitutional form of government and have created a dictatorship. Rinos don’t care.


55 posted on 03/17/2012 2:19:31 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: stephenjohnbanker; little jeremiah; LucyT
You should talk to my American friends who came out of Moskow, and the Ukraine. They say EXACTLY this, and say the American people are asleep at the wheel!!

One thing still in our favor, we're a tough nut to crack because we're one of two populations that are legally armed. The second is the Swiss.

We have to throw them out in the coming election. They'd better let us vote peaceably in a no-fraud election. No OWS, union thugs or any sort of violence followed by some regime action that could be anything between election cancelation to stuffing boxes.

I'm concerned but we'll see.

56 posted on 03/17/2012 2:30:43 PM PDT by melancholy (Professor Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist, Ph.D in L0w and H0lder)
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To: cripplecreek

We need to focus on all of it.

But Obama has already been shifting the foundations such that he can do whatever he wants, with or without the legislative branch cooperating. For instance, his unconstitutional “czars”/regulators have totally ignored what Congress had to say about EPA regulations, internet “neutrality”, etc. His DOJ has totally ignored Congressional subpoenas. Just today we found out that he’s got an executive order that allows him to decide whether we have a “national emergency” that warrants a complete takeover of everything.

We know George Soros has even the “conservative” media hostage over the eligibility issue, and it’s highly likely that he would extend the same threats to ANYTHING they want to bring up, once everybody knows they’re hostage and there’s no reason to try to hold up a facade of still being a free media. In addition, Obama is assuming the power to have an internet “kill switch”.

Congress - including most R’s - have agreed to allow POTUS to arrest and hold indefinitely without any due process whatsoever - no questions ever able to be asked - US citizens who are “belligerent” (as defined by Obama), knowing that Obama also claims the ability to ASSASSINATE anybody he suspects of being “terrorist” (which his DHS Secretary has said includes small-government people). In addition Congress, with the help of R’s (including my Senator Mike Johanns) agreed to give up a lot of our nukes, reduce our military, and subject our combat troops to the distraction of potential romance, from either women or gays in the combat zone with them.

Right now the states are being kept from enforcing their own border with Mexico (even though the feds have declared part of AZ, for instance, to be a no-go zone - basically ceded US territory to the Mexican drug cartels WHICH OUR OWN GOVERNMENT IS ARMING WITH UNTRACKABLE WEAPONS). They are being kept from requiring documentation of potential illegals. They are being kept from requiring ID’s for voters in order to protect the integrity of elections.

I could go on and on, but the checks and balances have been decimated. The separation of powers doesn’t exist. We have no free media. Obama has assumed dictatorial powers not only over each individual but over whole industries.

In short, I challenge anybody to name me one thing that Barack Obama at this point could not legally do, and exactly who would stop him if he tried to do that one thing.

We know the guy doesn’t have a draft registration and thus cannot lawfully hold ANY federal office. But who can and will do anything about it?

We know that he presented to the entire country as if it was genuine - using a White House press conference to do so - a birth certificate that was a forgery. But who can and will do anything about it?

If he can do those things openly without any legal consequences, somebody tell me one thing he COULDN’T do.

We are talking about a whole different ballgame than America has ever faced. It would be nice to think that a simple election could give us back this country, but I seriously doubt that the guy who fearlessly and successfully took an entire nation’s media hostage would be stopped by anything so quaint as a mere election.

We’re talking about a trojan that has taken over the basic functions of the whole computer system. Simply clicking “refresh” isn’t going to get rid of that.


57 posted on 03/17/2012 2:41:40 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: melancholy

Moscow, that is : )


58 posted on 03/17/2012 2:41:58 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Longbow1969

And the same kind of stuff you’re saying was probably said right before the Reichstag passed the Enabling Act of 1933...

We know how that ended. Only the “crazy people” were saying Hitler was dangerous. Couldn’t happen there. People had been demonizing Hindenburg too... Etc.


59 posted on 03/17/2012 2:48:24 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: yoe

I would put the probability that 2012 will be America’s last presidential election at a value somewhere around, oh, 0.01. Who knows: Jesus might return to usher in the Last Judgement, a comet could hit, or something like that; and, anyway, no empire lasts forever.

But I would put the probability of cancellation of the 2016 elections by a Democratic Party regime at precisely zero. Elections are a cheap and effective means of pacification. The USSR had elections. Sadaam’s Iraq had elections. And Chavez continues to have elections.

Perhaps the title should have been last fair and free presidential election. Even then, I think the probability is fairly low. The problem is that a whole lot of Americans want an ObamaNation with its Obamanomics and ObamaCare. When looking at Obama’s approval numbers, one must keep in mind that a significant fraction of his critics think he isn’t socializing as much and as quickly as they would like.


60 posted on 03/17/2012 2:48:50 PM PDT by Skepolitic
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