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INS DOC FOUND: U.S. CERTIFICATE ISSUED TO ONE EAST AFRICAN-BORN CHILD OF U.S. CITIZEN IN 1961!
The Daily Pen ^ | Friday, March 23, 2012 | Dan Crosby

Posted on 03/23/2012 10:58:19 PM PDT by Red Steel

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To: Red Steel; RaceBannon

Looks like Obama’s spontaneous utterance to you that he was born in Mombasa is correct.


121 posted on 03/24/2012 7:55:58 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: rxsid; STARWISE; maggief; onyx; Liz; MinuteGal; LucyT; advertising guy

FYI


122 posted on 03/24/2012 7:57:15 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Stand with God and Sarah, the Gipper and Newt will be standing next to you.)
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To: nathanbedford

The assumption is being made that the one person who came from Kenya is Obama, however, there are no names on the document and it just has the age range as under 18.


123 posted on 03/24/2012 7:59:59 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Red Steel

BTTT


124 posted on 03/24/2012 8:00:23 AM PDT by CodeToad (I'm so right-wing if I lifted my left leg I'd go into a spin.)
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To: Dengar01
And the MSM will focus on other crap

That's to be expected ... what astounds and baffles me is the continued behavior of the "conservative" media (e.g., Medved; Hewitt; et al.) who appear not only scared senseless to cover this ongoing unfolding event of profound Constitutional significance but they condemn and attempt to squelch the findings and opinions of those who do.

I can only speculate that access to the Washington elite is more important to them than is their self-described role as "Constitutional scholars" and "defenders of traditional American values". That they have ignored the findings of an American patriot -- Sheriff Joe -- is, I think, very revealing of their priorities and their intellectual curiousity concerning this potential anti-Constitutional precendent.

125 posted on 03/24/2012 8:01:21 AM PDT by glennaro
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To: Yaelle

“Is there anything here that is even slightly actual evidence?”

Ever heard of circumstantial evidence?


126 posted on 03/24/2012 8:02:00 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: butterdezillion; David; Fred Nerks

Boston Archive ????


127 posted on 03/24/2012 8:05:36 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Stand with God and Sarah, the Gipper and Newt will be standing next to you.)
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To: nathanbedford

“I have read this twice and I just do not get it. Why is this connected to Obama? How does this prove anything?”

You MUST be kidding.


128 posted on 03/24/2012 8:06:52 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: Red Steel; LucyT; melancholy; null and void
“A COC is also considered a primary form of identification by the State of Hawaii in 1961 to prove a foreign born infant’s residency in the U.S. prompting the issuance of a standard Certificate of Live Birth under Hawaii Revised Statute 338-17 which would then allocate the location of the birth to the mother’s residence.”

Once again the attempt to find exculpatory documentary evidence in support of Barry NOT being born in Kenya FAILS.

If underage Stanley Ann was unable to prove marriage after a birth in Kenya (or if the bigamy was known in Kenya) Barry would have QUALIFIED as a citizen at birth because SADO would have met the residency requirement for an out-of-wedlock birth mom.

SADO might even have first tried to obtain UK Kenyan citizenship in Kenya for Barry but been rebuffed due to the bigamy...leaving US nationality and/or citizenship as her recourse in her legally unmarried status.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_nationality_law#Birth_abroad_to_one_United_States_citizen

“A person's record of birth abroad, if registered with a U.S. consulate or embassy, is proof of citizenship. Such a person may also apply for a passport or a Certificate of Citizenship to have a record of citizenship. Such documentation is often useful to prove citizenship in lieu of the availability of an American birth certificate.”

“For persons born between December 24, 1952 and November 14, 1986, a person is a U.S. citizen if all of the following are true (except if born out-of-wedlock)[8]:
1.The person's parents were married at the time of birth
2.One of the person's parents was a U.S. citizen when the person was born
3.The citizen parent lived at least ten years in the United States before the child's birth;
4.A minimum of 5 of these 10 years in the United States were after the citizen parent's 14th birthday.

“For persons born out-of-wedlock (mother) if all the following apply:
1.the mother was a U.S. citizen at the time of the person’s birth and
2.the mother was physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the person’s birth.[9] (See link for those born to a U.S. father out-of-wedlock)”

129 posted on 03/24/2012 8:09:54 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Smokeyblue
Smokey:

Why don't you read the thread before criticizing?


130 posted on 03/24/2012 8:10:34 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Red Steel; nathanbedford
Here is a continuity error in this narrative. In the excerpt below, the content talks about flights from Kenya, etc and one person on a flight from Kenya was classified as an alien, however, if you look closely at the document they posted, that was not from a flight from Kenya. The header on that image says that was 'over land borders from Canada', not an arriving flight. Now yes, they could have stretched it to say they flew from Kenya to Canada then drove to the US but that does give some issues with the other evidence people are posting regarding missing flight records from Kenya to the US.

This would leave a gap where folks digging into this would now need to look at flights from Kenya to Canada, not the US.

Corroborating data from passenger arrivals of flights entering the U.S. between July 1st, 1961 and June 30th, 1962 indicates this one individual may have been originally classified as an alien upon arrival prior to application for derivative citizenship. The INS report shows there was only one individual who was originally classified by the INS as an alien arriving by air from Kenya. This individual was possibly inspected by INS officers in Hawaii upon arrival at the INS station located within Honolulu International Airport sometime in early August of 1961.


131 posted on 03/24/2012 8:12:21 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Seizethecarp; Fred Nerks; STARWISE; BP2

Do you remember the initial speculation that SADO returned through Boston to Vancouver/Seattle? Hmmmm?

There were even flight numbers given IIRC.


132 posted on 03/24/2012 8:14:10 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Stand with God and Sarah, the Gipper and Newt will be standing next to you.)
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To: aruanan; Red Steel; rxsid; butterdezillion; Danae

Under section 322 of the INA of 1952 as the son/child of a US citizen, Obama would have been able to be naturalized upon application by his mother, only requirement would be the application and that he was admitted lawfully (with a few inapplicable exceptions) because of his tender years other requirements such as good moral character, residency are waived...he could then be issued proof of citizenship while an infant. He would then be a Naturalized USC.

http://library.uwb.edu/guides/usimmigration/66%20stat%20163.pdf
(page 246 of pdf, I can’t copy & paste it maybe someone else can)

http://www.uscis.gov/ilink/docView/AFM/HTML/AFM/0-0-0-1/0-0-0-20833/0-0-0-20835.html

http://www.aca.ch/sec322.htm

(this law has changed from 1952 but primarily added to allow for grandparents to meet residency requirements and children to obtain USC while still abroad)

............

He also could have been a citizen if he was born out of wedlock and his mother was a US citizen Section 301 of INA 1952, he would be a citizen at birth and able to obtain a Certificate of Citizenship (no decision has been made whether that would be NBC for Presidential eligibility question)

If his father was a USC out of wedlock under section 309 and he could gain citizenship if he was legitimized prior to age 21(not necessary if his mother was USC with one year continuous physical presence in US prior to his birth, which she was.


133 posted on 03/24/2012 8:16:21 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: mnehring

Canada yes. Sent you the information you need to know by FR mail.


134 posted on 03/24/2012 8:21:57 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Stand with God and Sarah, the Gipper and Newt will be standing next to you.)
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To: Seizethecarp

see my post 133

some certificates of citizenship state under what section of INA the citizenship was authorized...


135 posted on 03/24/2012 8:28:21 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Red Steel

It would seem that if the INS issued a COC, they would also have a record or just who they issued it to.


136 posted on 03/24/2012 8:29:53 AM PDT by llotter (Without Responsibility, People Will Act Irresponsible.)
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To: nathanbedford

“Why don’t you read the thread before criticizing?”

That must be the shortest post you’ve ever written. I have read the thread.

For some reason you seem to think that you are the overriding “intellectual” here and you need to constantly “impart your wisdom” to us lowly rabble-rousers.

I’m sorry that the import of this report in conjunction with all the other overwhelming circumstantial evidence surrounding Obama’s fraudulent birth narrative is lost on you.


137 posted on 03/24/2012 8:31:07 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: DrDude
Does this number have any specific significance?
It's just the number on the example certificate shown.
138 posted on 03/24/2012 8:36:42 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: llotter; Red Steel

yes they should have a C file if it isn’t missing...


139 posted on 03/24/2012 8:42:14 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: himno hero
####! Pentagon, CIA, FBI , Mossad....but , the conspiracy goes well beyond just Obama... all of them need to rot..judges, pelosi, reid, klintoons...

Along with SCOTUS who admits they are "evading" the issue and Congress who doesn't have the huevos to impeach the squatter.

140 posted on 03/24/2012 8:42:25 AM PDT by bgill
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