I’ve been saying for years there’s no reason to buy a sports car/muscle car anymore. A plain old basic model ford taurus is about as fast as a mid 70s vintage firebird. A new mustang or camaro with a v8 will give you somewhere around 175MPH...around 200MPH if you get the *special* v8. I do not see the point.
We live in an era when a HONDA CIVIC SEDAN(Si version) has nearly 150hp from a 100cubic inch non-turbo 4 cylinder and will do 0-60 in 6 seconds flat, 0-100 in 8.3 seconds and 1/4 mile in 14.5 seconds.
Then you can add an aftermarket computer chip and an air cleaner and see substantial gains for not much effort. And it should be noted that Honda has not yet begun to upgrade their engines with direct injection as the other brands have already done. When that happens, there will be a dramatic increase in performance AND efficiency. Honda has always been “anti-turbo” so they will not be using turbos any time soon. I think the direct injected motors will be out this fall.
earlier in the thread I mentioned the 1970 chevelle SS454. It was the fastest production car(showroom stock configuration) in the quarter mile ever made and held that title until the 1987 buick GNX. The 1970 chevelle would do 0-60 in 5.5 seconds. the GNX would do it in 4.7 seconds. Granted, the chevelle would be much much faster with just a few simple mods, like better tires, traction bars, and removal of the mufflers. But as soon as you start allowing these kinds of mods, then the 1970 chevelle is no longer the king of the hill...the chrysler hemi is.
But the point is, a basic sedan is plenty fast enough nowdays.
Honda has always been “anti-turbo” so they will not be using turbos any time soon.
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Honda has had turbocharged micro cars (2 cylinder 550 or 600 cc) in Japan for many decades... and they certainly know how to tune for boost ,, remember F1 with 1200hp (qualifying) 1.5 liter turbo cars!