Is It A Sin To Vote For Mitt Romney?

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[gitmo]

Manic’s post isn’t saying voting for Romney is a sin for everyone. His premise is based on Paul’s admonition about things that are not specifically mentioned in Scripture. Paul said if eating meat sacrificed to idols feels sinful to you, then it is. If not, then enjoy your freedom but don’t flaunt it before those who can’t ... you might cause them to violate the direction they received from God.

So he raises an interesting point. If he feels it is sinful for him to vote for an abortion-pusher and for someone who supports the homosexual lifestyle, then it would indeed be sinful for him to vote for that man.

[EBH]

i’m not so sure they aren’t....

[Smokin' Joe]

“So strange as it seems, I’m leaning towards thinking Obama is the lesser of the two evils, if only because he is more likely to be blocked and made ineffective. “

A salient point: The most damnable legislation established under Bush (with a lot of GOP support) is already being morphed into a surveillance society bent on finishing off the Fourth Amendment. Had Clinton proposed the Patriot Act, it would have been fought tooth and nail.

We don't need a wolf in sheep's clothing to lull the GOP and conservatives into thinking the Liberal Juggernaut is slowed or turning.

Similarly, voting for the leftward tack the GOP has been on since Reagan, since Goldwater, just produces more of the same. The 'middle of the road' has been so severely redefined in my lifetime that Jack Kennedy could have run to the right of many GOP candidates today.

Giving tacit approval to the statist drift, even in the form of voting for a 'lesser' evil, has produced only more drift to the Left: a greater evil, just on the installment plan.

I will be looking at other candidates. I cannot, in good conscience vote for either of the pro-homosexual, pro-abortion, State run healthcare monopoly loving, anti-gun candidates.

[Conservative Vermont Vet]

Since you (and you are not the 1st to approach this issue from a religious perspective; see diogenesis’s rant a couple of days ago about how “Christians and Patriots” should not vote for Romney) I assume you are advancing the narrative in a manner of committing a sin 0f (COMMISSION) if one votes for Mittens?

HOW’S ABOUT taking the opposite track and asking all, if by staying home or voting for someone else (write in) whether one is committing a equally grievous “sin” through “COMMISSION,” whereby one is facilitating the re-election of a person who is TRULY “EVIL?”

James chapter 4 and verse 17. “THEREFORE TO HIM THAT KNOWETH TO DO GOOD, AND DOETH IT NOT, TO HIM IT IS SIN” (JAMES 4:17). THE SIN OF FAILING TO DO WHAT WE OUGHT TO DO

All it takes for EVIL.....

..... to triumph is for good men to do nothing!"

[Conservative Vermont Vet]

Correction:

Should read: whether one is committing a equally grievous “sin” through “COMMISSION,”"OMISSION" whereby one is facilitating the re-election of a person who is TRULY “EVIL?”

[Belteshazzar]

CommerceComet wrote:
“All of this is built on a false assumption - no Christian is under the obligation to vote for either man.”

Your argument is built on the false assumption that I said a Christian is under obligation to vote for either man. I never said that. You leaped to that assumption in order to make the point you wanted to make.

Finally, if we are going to restrict our vote giving as Christians to those who are not, as you put it, “enemies of the cross,” we will be doing very little voting. That is the nature of politics and of those who aspire to political power. Few of them are “friends of the cross.” As for Romney being more dangerous, I just don’t buy your argument. Sure, Mormonism is a false gospel. In fact, I will go farther. It is a ridiculous, phantasmagorical gospel dreamed up by a 19th century con man for his own profit. That it was transformed into a religion is a tribute to the gullibility of the many and cynical and self-centered ambition of the few. The Mormon few (i.e. the elite/hierarchy) have been trying to “take over” the United States for almost 200 years now. I’m not overly worried about their chances of success.

[driftdiver]

The left thinks one of them is Santa Claus

[CommerceComet]

Your argument is built on the false assumption that I said a Christian is under obligation to vote for either man. I never said that.

I never said you did. An assumption doesn't have to be directly stated but can be implied.

Few of them are “friends of the cross.” As for Romney being more dangerous, I just don’t buy your argument.

I have never insisted on theological purity from the political candidates that I support. However, there is a difference between someone who isn't a friend of the cross and someone who is an enemy of the cross. I voted for John McCain (without enthusiasm) because he wasn't an active enemy of the cross. That cannot be said about Mitt Romney. If you aren't convinced of the hostility of Mormonism to evangelical Christianity, read what their leaders throughout history have said about Christians and not the releases of their PR department.

[CommerceComet]

Finally, you never even bothered (sigh) to address my point that not voting for Romney is the equivalent of a vote for Obama.

Because it's not equivalent. If I vote for Obama (and I won't), Romney has to attract two votes to win (one to cancel the vote for Obama and one to create a margin). If I don't vote for Obama, Romney only needs to attract one vote to create a margin.

[MHGinTN]

Brilliant ... as usual.

[b4its2late]

If anything, it should be a sin if you vote for Obama a second time, or if this would be your first time.

[Thorliveshere]

Just like everything that happens is not God's will. It's never God's will that people sin, but they do. It's never God's will that people reject him and die in their ins, and thus face the second death, but they do.

Well, yes, good points. I guess I didn't get that across, but I think I was more less aimed for that very first sentence, and kind of botched it.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

"This is covered in like the first class of Statistics 101. I guess the three of you missed that class.."

Thanks for your patience and understanding with the rest of us!

Because of your insight, I now realize that [statistically speaking] every time I choose a 7-up, instead of a Pepsi, I am voting for Coke!

I never knew! Shazam!!!

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You also may want to review the following information to take your understanding of American elections even farther. I believe you will be amazed when you come to understand this on a deeper level!

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[arthurus]

That Advocate does not argue to the Judge the existence or absence of sin. Is God the Father omniscient or is He not? That Advocate says, “Even though...”

[CommerceComet]

Excellent response, AMPU but I usually vote for Coke by drinking Squirt.

[MHGinTN]

Do you believe this Republic will survive another four years of the little barry bastard commie and his gaggle of thuggish goons? Do you think Romney and Obama would appoitn the same judges to the SCOTUS?

[MHGinTN]

Do you believe this Republic will survive another four years of the little barry bastard commie and his gaggle of thuggish goons? Do you think Romney and Obama would appoitn the same judges to the SCOTUS?

BTW, the analogy presented by presidio is valid if you were comparing the purchases of Coke with other soft drinks of similar nature, with a given background purchasing populace who will choose either coke or any other soft drink. Ridiculing an analogy because you don't like the stark truth contained therein is an alinsky tactic, if you didn't know already.

[CommerceComet]

BTW, the analogy presented by presidio is valid if you were comparing the purchases of Coke with other soft drinks of similar nature, with a given background purchasing populace who will choose either coke or any other soft drink. Ridiculing an analogy because you don't like the stark truth contained therein is an alinsky tactic, if you didn't know already.

Valid? I believe that the example violates both the category fallacy and the proportions fallacy. Besides, as AMPU points out, it is irrelevant because it is the electoral votes, not the popular vote, which determine the outcome. In my state, my refusal to vote for Romney would have to be multiplied by 500,000 times to possibly make any difference.

Do you have any positive reasons to vote for Romney? Frankly, the Chicken Little routine is getting tiresome. I am only slightly more concerned about what Obama might do to the country than what Romney would do to this nation and to the conservative movement. Not enough, however, to soil my hands by voting for Romney.

[MHGinTN]

And once again the alinsky ridicule tactics surface from another direction. What you so asshattingly call a chicken little routine is in fact the imminent death of the AMERICAN REPUBLIC some of us see coming if little barry bastard commie is allowed to rule for four more years.

It has yet to sink into your smarmy brain that there will be no ‘conservative movement’ if Barry succeeds in his plans to terminate the Republic. So go suck an egg, brainiac. The rational adults will try to save the Republic by incremental steps, beginning with getting rid of little barry bastard commie come January 2013. Dragging Milt Rominy (rhymes with hominy, the tasteless corn product) to the right is to follow shortly after ridding the nation of the commie infestation and Eric 'the raddish' Holder.

[norton]

Some day you may even be judged by a higher authority for supporting a man who pushed $50 abortions not even a decade ago. The defense that the other pro-abortion candidate is worse because he has a (D) next to his name will not matter. You will be judged for who you support.

By your logic, it's going to be a sin to vote unless you want to write your pastor in for prez.

It ain't like we were talking about splitting the baby here;
We're talking about voting for someone we dislike and disagree with - who we have a chance of influencing - versus one we like less, disagree with (far) more and have absolutely NO influence over:
Or tossing a vote into the hopper because you don't want to play.

Your choice.

PS: I think God pays more attention to my deeds and my motives than for any difficult decisions I might have to make in order to "render unto Cesar".

PPS: Haven't been able to vote yet?
(I voted for Santorum...we could have used your help.)
Got anything planned between now and November?