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PRUDEN: When factoids are better than facts in Obama’s birther story
Washington Times ^ | 5-22-12 | Wesley Pruden

Posted on 05/29/2012 6:09:50 AM PDT by radioone

Who would have guessed that Barack Obama was the original birther, peddling the story that he was born in Kenya long before Donald Trump, Sheriff Joe and assorted nut jobs took it up as a crusade in fantasy and futility.

Mr. Obama’s literary agent put together a little booklet with a biographical sketch in 1991 to promote a book he never finished with a description of the author as “the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review … born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii.”

The literary agent now insists it was her mistake and Mr. Obama never saw the booklet until it was published. An unlikely story, but like everything else about him, it’s an element in the portrait of a composite president, a man with composite ambitions, composite convictions and a composite past populated by girlfriends he now concedes were composites, too.

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TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: birther; hawaii; kenya; obama
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To: kabar

In your scenario, when did Obama stop saying he was born in Kenya? His own wife referred to Kenya as his “home country.”


41 posted on 05/29/2012 10:12:05 AM PDT by dinodino
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To: T-Bird45; MtBaldy
>> I guess I’ll just have to stand trial with Tribe and Olson. <<

Methinks you're kinda* mixed up there. If you believe Tribe and Olson are members of the Vattel school, then I've got an island in the Hudson River to sell you.

*To put it mildly, as the saying goes.

42 posted on 05/29/2012 10:52:28 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: thackney

>> Natural Born Citizen means to me, by the conditions of my birth <<

Not only to you, but also to anybody else who is endowed with common sense and is capable of logical thought.


43 posted on 05/29/2012 10:55:04 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: dinodino
Stop saying? There were news reports when he was running for state senator that he was born in Kenya. There was the publicist's booklet that carried that information until 2007, but I can't identify anything that I have ever seen that had Obama personally saying he was born in Kenya. Nothing on tape or in a news story quoting him.

As someone who has been looking at all kinds of information about Obama for five years, if you have any documented information where Obama personally claims he was born in Kenya, then I would appreciate greatly any source you might have. It would be a huge bombshell if you have it.

44 posted on 05/29/2012 10:59:09 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

If I had such a source, it would have been in Breitbart’s hands long ago.

This is anecodotal, but it’s a personal anecdote: I was in DXB the day before Obama’s election, and I chatted with a young man regarding the election. He stated that tomorrow was “a big day, because a Kenyan is being elected President of the United States.” I told him he was mistaken and he said no, that Obama is from Kenya.

Obviously, the perception has been for a long time that Obama was from Kenya. His wife thought that. His grandmother said so. Kenyan Ministers said so, on record. There is loads of circumstantial evidence that he was born in Kenya, or has been representing himself as such for years.


45 posted on 05/29/2012 11:18:51 AM PDT by dinodino
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To: radioone

I agree with Barack Obama when he said he was born in Kenya.


46 posted on 05/29/2012 1:44:50 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Hawthorn

Prior to your reference to Vattel, I was not fully conversant with his writings but have read more today since you want to paint me with that brush. As I attempted to do earlier, I do align and agree with Tribe and Olson in their analysis of the specifics of Sen. McCain’s citizenship status. I agree that they are not adherents of Vattel’s writings especially since they reference Blackstone’s Commentary, a source not held in high regard in the “birther” community site scans I did today.

In aligning myself with Tribe/Olson, I take specific note of their memo’s closing paragraph on birth to two parents of US citizenship on soil under US sovreignty. This is the source of my differing terminology in natural versus native. I understand that current legalities do not support that as a distinction.

I believe our exchange can now be considered complete.


47 posted on 05/29/2012 2:24:16 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: T-Bird45

You are the one confused.

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?page_id=6695


48 posted on 05/30/2012 4:27:37 AM PDT by MtBaldy (If Obama is the answer, it must have been a really stupid question)
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To: SaraJohnson

I have at one time thought Obama was born in Cuba and is a revenge tool from Castro against America.

Obama born in Hawaii? I don’t have any faith in that by the facts of too much overwhelming amount of questionable evidence, all of it is too contrived, too flimsy and full of holes.

Better yet I bet there are people at the airports in Hawaii that target arriving tourists offering them to buy copies of Obamas BC.

Obama has been craftily built into the internet history banks by master internet chessmen. Tell the lie often enough people will believe it, bigger is better.


49 posted on 05/30/2012 4:37:41 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (Liberals need not reply.)
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To: MtBaldy; Hawthorn

Hawthorn has already done your work here. The horse is dead and it’s time to dismount rather than continue the beating.


50 posted on 05/30/2012 8:15:22 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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