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1 posted on 06/24/2012 5:54:50 PM PDT by Borges
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I’m a proud Yankee and even I think anyone who calls Robert E Lee a traitor is a moron. Even in the middle of a brutal civil war he was widely respected in the north.


2 posted on 06/24/2012 6:01:29 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Borges

Where’s the Rosenbergs?


3 posted on 06/24/2012 6:05:30 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: Borges

I agree about R.E. Lee not needing to be on there. He DID resign his commission, so he wasn’t pulling the wool over anyone’s eyes. Back then, people thought of themselves more as what State they were from, than as Americans.


5 posted on 06/24/2012 6:13:23 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Obama doesnÂ’t have the work ethic to be Anti-Christ.)
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As soon as I saw Robert E. Lee, I stopped.

Anyone who knows anything about that period realizes that Lee was not a traitor. In those times the question of who your loyalty was first was a serious matter of dispute- state or federal. Remember the states existed before the federal govt. Remember that one of the main reasons that Jefferson Davis was never tried on treason was because there was serious belief that the Supreme Court would hold that a state could withdraw from the union.

Officers in the Federal Army were allowed to resign, so they could fight for the south. The Army and Naval Academies held a final formation so the students could say one last good bye to each other before they separated.

There was a sense of honor and a personal code that seems very alien to us now.

Also recognize that Robert E. Lee did more to ensure that ex-confederate soldiers came back into the union than any other confederate general (that I know of). He was held in high esteem by both sides before, during and after the civil war.

9 posted on 06/24/2012 6:18:43 PM PDT by fini
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To: Borges

It’s quite obvious someone forgot one ,,,, that is #1 B. H. 0.


12 posted on 06/24/2012 6:19:15 PM PDT by Lionheartusa1 (-: Socialism is the equal distribution of misery :-)
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Where the hell is Alger Hiss? Or the Rosenbergs? Or Morton Sobell? Or Judith Coplon?


14 posted on 06/24/2012 6:21:27 PM PDT by Fiji Hill (Deo Vindice!)
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To: Borges

Is my browser not working properly?I dont see any names and dont recognize some of them or an explanation why they were chosen.Who are they?


17 posted on 06/24/2012 6:24:07 PM PDT by Craftmore
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I agree on eliminating RE Lee from the list. Alger Hiss should be up at #2. And move Pound from the top 10 to 11th and insert the Rosenbergs.


21 posted on 06/24/2012 6:30:14 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Borges
As a Nam Vet, I think there is room for one more....

In fact, in my book, he would be right up there with Hanoi Jane in 1st or 2nd place...

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25 posted on 06/24/2012 6:42:42 PM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet
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Sandy Burglar, That dude risked a lot by stuffing papers in His pants, shortly after 9-11. He got away with it, But what He did, stealing State secrets or evidence, is what a traitor does. He belongs on any list Fonda is on.


34 posted on 06/24/2012 7:00:18 PM PDT by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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I have a little list myself. Lee isn't on it but Jefferson Davis is.

But I can think of a handful of people who didn't make the cut and should have: John Walker, Jerry Whitworth, to name two. Hiss, the Rosenburgs, practically anyone on the Verona list. Adam Gadahn and Major Nidal Hasan without a doubt. Not, however, punks like William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn, who were second-raters at their top and are simply embarrassing now.

42 posted on 06/24/2012 7:17:50 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_May

Congressman Andrew May (D) Kentucky.

During WWII he received a top secret briefing about how the Japanese were setting their depth charges too shallow to sink our submarines.

So he has a press conference and brags about it, the Japanese adjust their settings and we lost at least 10 submarines and their crews.


55 posted on 06/24/2012 7:42:18 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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Some other really important ones that were missed:

William Hamilton Martin and Bernon F. Mitchell, U.S. National Security Agency cryptologists who defected to the Soviet Union in 1960.

John Anthony Walker, Jr. During his time as a Soviet spy, Walker helped the Soviets decipher more than one million encrypted US Navy messages, organizing a spy operation that The New York Times reported in 1987 “is sometimes described as the most damaging Soviet spy ring in history.”

I absolutely agree about the Rosenbergs, who deserved to fry.


67 posted on 06/24/2012 8:04:23 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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England considered all of the Founding Fathers traitors. They overturned a government.

The Confederates didn’t try to overturn the “union” government. Therefore, Lee, Davis et al were not traitors.

I consider every member of the supreme court and every person in congress traitors for allowing a non natural born citizen to become president.


71 posted on 06/24/2012 8:22:22 PM PDT by Terry Mross (To My Liberal Kinfolk: Don't call, email or write until you've gotten your brain fixed.)
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Lee? A traitor? LOL...looks like Ms. Currie has some sand in his mangina with regards to southerners...


117 posted on 06/25/2012 4:52:40 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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Bill Clinton - sold missile technology to China for campaign cash.


118 posted on 06/25/2012 4:53:38 AM PDT by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar (The "p" in Democrat stands for patriotism.)
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William "Lord Haw-Haw" Joyce, the Nazi propagandist, was actually an Irish-American and a US citizen, and therefore, a traitor to us and not to the UK -- which didn't stop them from executing him for treason.

There was also Mildred Gillars, known as Axis Sally (though there were other broadcasters who were also known by that nickname). With time, experts have come to be a bit forgiving of Iva "Tokyo Rose" D'Aquino who, they say, wasn't political wasn't the treacherous monster she was made out to be.

Most of that handful of Americans in the Waffen SS were of German parentage. I suspect all of them were at least part German and many were taken back to Germany as children. That doesn't mean they weren't traitors, but it may explain why they weren't prosecuted.

141 posted on 06/25/2012 1:51:13 PM PDT by x
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The biggest traitor by far is Hussein Obama. Why is he not at the TOP OF THE LIST?


179 posted on 06/25/2012 4:25:57 PM PDT by politicianslie (Obama: Our first Muslim PRESIDENT,destroying America $1 Trillion at a time! And America sleeps)
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Where are Clinton, and Obama?


188 posted on 06/26/2012 11:18:50 AM PDT by Osage Orange (8675309)
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Did Roberts make the top five?


227 posted on 07/02/2012 7:43:45 PM PDT by TBall
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