Conservative “expert” purists have to recognize people are voting AGAINST Obama not FOR Romney

coachisright.com ^ | Juky 5, 2012 | Kevin "Coach" Collins

[mnehring]

Good luck using that if the FEC decides to do an audit. You may be in the right, but in the right with a big fat fine on your back.

[mnehring]

Oh, and in FEC v Adams, that defense was made and the FEC won slapping the defendant with a $106K fine.

[snarkybob]

“The simple truth is that every Conservative should be as ashamed as I am that after 2008, all we could come up with is Romney.”

2008? I’d say 2004. GWBs second term was a trainwreck. Conservatives were arm twisted into voting for him because the alternative was worse. The battle cry was “We’ll elect him and hold his feet to the fire”. How’d that work out?

The sad truth is that no small government conservative will ever get the nomination as long as GOP elite can torpedo them and give you the false choice of worse and more worse.

I knew in 2008 when Mitt finished second that he’d be the nominee this time. Should mitt lose, I’m not sure who it will be next time except it won’t be Cain, or Santorum. The PTB will probably re-tread Guliani. Then we’ll be told that we have to vote for Rudy because the alternative is so much worse so we should elect him and hold his feet to the fire.

Same thing every election cycle.
I seriously think the GOP leaders would rather lose the election than give up the power they get from big government so the plan of holding feet to the fire and getting a small government conservative next time is futile.

[so_real]

And Romney will bypass solid conservative candidates to appoint liberals to 2/3rds of those SCOTUS seats ... just as he did in Massachusetts. Who knows ... perhaps he'll even appoint a liberal gay activist judge ... just as he did in Massachusetts. We won't survive if we stop fighting "liberalism". If we can't clean the liberals out of our own ranks, we have no chance at cleaning them out of government in general. And then, you are correct, we won't survive. The only difference between an Obama SCOTUS appointment and a Romney SCOTUS appointment is that conservatives will be faulted for the Romney appointments.

Romney's Judiciary (click) "Summary: Mitt Romney’s record as Governor does not indicate a commitment to a conservative judicial philosophy."

[EternalVigilance]

Are you saying that every word I utter, every post I make on the web, is a paid ad?

That doesn’t compute.

There’s quite a bit more to this that you haven’t thought through.

[butterdezillion]

There is no long-term America if Obama is re-elected. Period. If you bleed out you’re dead; if you refuse to use the turd-covered tourniquet because you’re afraid you might die of infection a couple months later, you’re choosing to die from blood loss today.

I think people are in denial over just how serious a situation we are in. Those of us who have been researching the Obama eligibility problem have been saying for some time that the country has descended into total lawlessness, with all mechanisms of accountability disabled. Now that Roberts came up with a totally lawless decision, even Rush Limbaugh is beginning to say it’s time to worry, that we have no rule of law and we have been betrayed by the mechanisms and people that are supposed to protect the rule of law.

I feel like saying, “Welcome to my world, Rush. This is what we’ve been telling you guys for a long time but no, we were just crazy conspiracy theorists that no reasonable people would even hear.”

This country is in serious doo-doo. I saw the headlines yesterday, asking whether this could be the last 4th of July for America. Finally, some people are asking the right questions. Economists have been telling us for some time that America is in worse condition than Greece and that the collapse of the US economy is just a matter of time. Does anybody doubt that Soros has the ability to decide the moment that the collapse comes? The communist play-book has always been to create a crisis and then use it to seize control. The DHS is preparing for civil war. Iran has been sending Hezbollah operatives - perhaps armed with WMD’s - to Venezuela to come up through our wide-open southern border. We have GOT to wake up and realize that everything is being put in place so that when the crisis comes, we are surrounded by enemies armed with weapons that our guns cannot fight. A gun can’t fight botulism or the bubonic plague. And Hezbollah operatives have the ability to bring those WMD’s into every city in America, just ready and waiting to be used when the signal is given. This is what we’re up against.

We are bleeding out. Cancer is the last of our worries right now.

[mnehring]

Have you thought of it and the legal requirements behind it?

It doesn’t matter what I think. I’m not the one who could face a fine.

[Colonel_Flagg]

Conservative “expert” purists have to recognize people are voting AGAINST Obama not FOR Romney

I'll believe that as soon as I see an official vote tally that includes "Against Obama" in it.

A vote for Romney is a vote for Romney. That's how it shows up in the count. So why not just admit it? The verbal and mental gymnastics we see on this site from conservatives trying to convince themselves otherwise could be avoided.

Voting for Romney? Do what you gotta do. But don't try to convince us that he's any sort of conservative or that you aren't selling conservatism up the river by doing it. And then go in peace.

[so_real]

The Soros machine has the whole system hostage, IMHO. After going a week letting the process manage itself after the Sept 2008 run on the bank, in one day John McCain decided to suspend his campaign and asked to call off all the debates AND GW Bush decided to give a speech to the country saying the world as we know it would end if we didn’t pass TARP. Martial law had been declared the weekend before so that Congress could ram through TARP but when there was too much resistance to get that Reichstag Fire event to be effective at passing TARP, SOMEBODY scared the crap out of both John McCain and President Bush in one single day. The following day there was a meeting with the leaders, including John Boehner. And from then on out, the resistance has slowly given way to absolute obedience to the will of the R leaders - which is total pandering to Soros’ agenda, even in the dems’ lame-duck period after the 2010 landslide.

How does any of this change by electing a liberal republican, one that is far more liberal than Bush and McCain combined, as president? Having all this happen under their watch should tell you that Romney, with his finger perpetually in the political air and ready to flop in a new direction, stands absolutely no chance at changing the paradigm. The problem remains, as big as ever, only now it's "our" fault ...

[Linda Frances]

WE HAVE TO HAVE THE PRESIDENCY, IF WE ARE TO HAVE ANY HOPE OF DISARMING THE MAN WHO HOLDS THIS ENTIRE SYSTEM HOSTAGE. Period.

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NO ROMNEY IS. All he has to do is acknowledge conservatives with more than one liners. Romney is rejecting us. See post #60

[butterdezillion]

You don’t get it. A dead body doesn’t get to point fingers to blame anybody. When you’re dead, you’re dead. That’s all that matters.

Romney could be the worst gosh-awful person in the world, but if the military heads under pressure from a patriotic Congress and a DHS that took the security of America seriously came to him and said, “Listen, pal, you WILL issue an executive order to stop a Soros run on the bank at the first sign of trouble, or you will have the biggest mutiny in the history of the world on your hands and they’re coming for you and your wife”... I think he’d do what it took.

That can never happen with Obama, because Podesta would never love the country enough to do that.

The President is the only person with that kind of emergency power. We HAVE TO have a President who will listen to people who actually love and protect this country. Period. That is the ONLY WAY to get out of this hostage situation.

[BornToBeAmerican]

I did not call you a liar. What you said was perfectly true. It is your reasoning that I take issue with.

But truth or not, your statement does not and cannot dictate the motive, intent or rationale behind the vote.

Voting for Romney does not make him a Conservative, nor does it make him a liberal. Yes, no matter which way you turn it, it is still a vote for Romney.

BUT!!!!!!

It is also a vote AGAINST a Marxist Dictator.

I for one believe that a vote against our present Marxist Dictator, thug is better than a non vote. Because it will not be my non vote that gives the election to our destryer in chief.

[Bratch]

Well, the GOP-e has shown they'd rather a Democrat win than support a conservative.

And conservatives say they'd rather a Democrat win than support a Republican establishment candidate.

Sounds like it good to be a Democrat.

[PoliticalArsonist]

So your plan is . . . ?

It seems to be to vote for . . . who, exactly?

What chance does that person have of winning? Make your case, please, and I will be on board.

Will we have a chance to do anything at all in 2016 if Obama wins again in November?

Please, do not confuse the GOP with conservatism. It is not the same. The Tea Party came about to fight the GOP elite as much as it did to fight the Dems. What Romney does or does not do will have nothing to do with conservatism. The conservative movement will not die because of him. If anything, it will be reenergized as a new separate party from the GOP.

[BornToBeAmerican]

“I seriously think the GOP ****RINOS ***** leaders would rather lose the election than give up the power they get from big government so the plan of holding feet to the fire and getting a small government conservative next time is futile.”

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The Tea party and like groups have to become more than a groundswell, they must become the nation. I believe we are well on the way to seeing it.

Yet, it goes much deeper than politics. I believe it starts at our education system. Our kids are taught nothing but liberal trash.

I have not been a fan of the third party this election cycle, but if a 3rd party with a name like the “Constitution Party” were to be formed the day after the election, then I am all for it.

The only way is the Conservative way.

[EternalVigilance]

Have you thought of it and the legal requirements behind it?

Indeed I have. In every detail.

It doesn’t matter what I think. I’m not the one who could face a fine.

I can't possibly face a fine.

"I don't want your money. I want you to do your duty as a citizen." -- Tom Hoefling

[butterdezillion]

I wish Romney was smarter. I wish he was more Constitutional. You mentioned his scorn of pro-lifers, and yet it was the treasonous “pro-life” groups that endorsed Romney IN THE PRIMARY. There is SO MUCH WRONG with this picture, and it just curdles my stomach. I definitely hear what you’re saying.

In the end, though, it doesn’t matter if the doctor who alone can do life-saving surgery on my child has a good bedside manner. First let him save my kid’s life and then I’ll take him to task over his bedside manner. But I will not sacrifice my child’s life just because I feel slighted by the person who could save my child’s life.

America is bleeding out. If we don’t apply a tourniquet we will be dead. That is a very serious thing. I dislike Romney intensely and I literally hate the establishment and traitors who made him our nominee. But my love of my children and the country that could give them freedom is stronger than the righteous, indignant feelings I have right now. If we can stop the immediate life-threatening hemorrhaging there will be another day in which to address the animosity and contempt, but the right time to do that is NOT when we’re bleeding out. For the love of our children, we have to know when is the right time.

[PoliticalArsonist]

Truth is, by not splitting the vote, we have a better chance of removing Obama.

As much as I’d love to see you win, its not going to happen and voting for you or Goode or anyone else just gives Obama a better shot of staying in office.

I’m not going to take that chance. I’d rather take my path and work to remove Romney next time.

[rurgan]

Just 1 big difference I see is that the media would drum Romney out of office if Romney ever dared to do what Obama when Obama passed the Dream act Amnesty for illegals.

So with Romney we'd have at best no action nothing done to harm us FURTHER. But Obama will decree amnesty to all illegals and the media won't call for impeachment. Obama will take our guns away by decree, Obama will put new taxes on us (carbon taxes etc.), Obama will send the IRS after us to audit everyone of us to see if we are complying with the Obamacare, take away our nukes, give the UN sovereignty over us, a million more things this marxist thug will do to us.

but Romney would be scared to issue executive orders because he knows the media would beat the drum to get him impeached . the media is looking to impeach a Republican president so that they can get a democrat president and another democrat congress.

[EternalVigilance]

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: The saving of this free republic begins on the day that conservatives stop supporting what they say they hate. Not a moment before. Until then, they’re part of the problem.