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Conservative “expert” purists have to recognize people are voting AGAINST Obama not FOR Romney
coachisright.com ^ | Juky 5, 2012 | Kevin "Coach" Collins

Posted on 07/05/2012 10:40:20 AM PDT by jmaroneps37

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To: PoliticalArsonist

Romney’s now “our horse” - so he HAS to win??

So that’s what it is like to think like a slave I guess. We did that often in Cook County too - tried to make lemonade out of a turd shoved down our throat while the march into oligarchy continued unimpeded.

It’s comforting to deceive ourselves. Then again II Timothy 3 tells us this would happen.

When exactly did we become a monarchy to the point that even Conservatives have decided that choosing the next Executive determines the course of the nation?

Answering that question honestly makes my entire point in this discussion.

If we want to survive as individuals with our right to life still in our own hands - then we must start thinking past November and recognize that nothing is going to change - that we must know the worst - and to prepare for it.

Prostrating before the king and his officers sent hitherto to harass us and eat from our substance is not an option for me. Neither is voting for a ‘better king’ to replace him, because he’s a chosen puppet from the Ruling Class bloodline who will assert the divine right of the Ruling Class over us same as the king before him.

And unfortunately, the people will cower out of fear to hold onto what comforts and possessions they have left and for the empty promises of bread and circuses.


201 posted on 07/06/2012 11:27:13 AM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: PoliticalArsonist
The problem with your theory is simple ~ McCain lost, Dole lost, Pappy Bush lost, Ford lost, Goldwater lost, Nixon lost, Dewey lost, Willkie lost, .....

These guys were appointed the nominee by the GOP-e over more Conservative opponents inside the GOP. The public saw the party's error and voted for the Democrat ~ even horrid, corrupt, incompetent Democrats.

This time we also face a voter deficit of about 10 million voters ~ Obama has to lose at least that many to let the Republican pull even.

That hasn't happened before and it won't happen this time either.

The only way to break the pattern is to send out a real Conservative.

202 posted on 07/06/2012 11:37:31 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: INVAR

You sure make a lot of assumptions.

You know nothing of me or how I have resisted government at every level.

I refer to one race, the presidency, where our choices are limited. Voting for Romney (TO OUST OBAMA) (yes, I was shouting because you seem to be missing that point) does not mean that we should stop educating ourselves and others or that we should stop fight at every other level to stop the implementation of a big government agenda, even if that agenda is Romney’s.

In ‘08, I argued that McCain wouldn’t be much better or could even be worse than Obama. Here in ‘12, I can see that I was wrong. Obama is a threat — an immediate threat — to our liberty and our existence. If a vote for anyone other than Romney would elect someone other that Obama or Romney, I’d be more than happy to cast that vote.


203 posted on 07/06/2012 4:42:38 PM PDT by PoliticalArsonist
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To: muawiyah

Same question as before. WHO?


204 posted on 07/06/2012 4:43:59 PM PDT by PoliticalArsonist
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To: PoliticalArsonist
We have quite a large party with dozens of quite capable people who could do a fine job as President. We are coming up to the party convention. Let them do the picking.

That can be done without rancor if Romney and his amateur hour folks just step down and go away.

Don't you feel that it's ridiculous that during a time when we really need some leadership we are running the guy least likely to win?

205 posted on 07/06/2012 5:02:08 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: jmaroneps37

Romney talks good, he sounds good, his words make him out to be a great conservative but his actions are those of a far left liberal. Actions do tend to speak louder than words so which do we go with, words or actions? Personally I would like to throw Romney under the bus and put the noose of nomination around someone else’s neck.


206 posted on 07/06/2012 5:55:44 PM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Maybe the horse (RNC) will learn to sing)
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To: EternalVigilance

There are still lots of people unaware that the RNC/DNC has carefully picked Romney for the position of designated loser.
The Fabian socialists have a plan and agenda reaching out fifty to one hundred , even one hundred and fifty years resulting in the destruction of this nation and formation of their socialist utopia. Revolutionary communists want the same utopia and they want it NOW. They would be happy with lining people up and shooting them to bring about that utopia.
The Fabians will lay back and put up with the rape this nation will suffer at the hands of the revolutionary communists if it means getting their utopia sooner with their hands clean. As a side note; The Fabians apparently never study history because at that point the revolutionaries always murder the Fabians.
Romney, the Fabian, will take one for the team and throw the election to Obama, the revolutionary communist.


207 posted on 07/06/2012 6:32:20 PM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Maybe the horse (RNC) will learn to sing)
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To: muawiyah

It is ridiculous and it is a shame but thus far, this is what the system has delivered. I advocated for a third party to replace (or takeover) the GOP 2 or 3 cycles ago and almost universally I was told that it couldn’t be done.

If it ‘couldn’t be done’ right after an election with 4 years to go until the next one, how are we going to pull it off with 4 months before the vote?


208 posted on 07/06/2012 6:58:56 PM PDT by PoliticalArsonist
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To: rurgan

the media would drum Romney out of office if Romney ever dared to do what Obama is doing.///////// You are very mistaken, The Media would be wetting their panties for Romney with him pushing the same utopia as Obama even if he is slower than Obama.
Romney sounds good and his words have him looking like a staunch conservative. The problem is his actions are those of a far left liberal. Actions tend to speak louder than words so what should we go with, the words or the actions?


209 posted on 07/06/2012 7:31:25 PM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Maybe the horse (RNC) will learn to sing)
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To: PoliticalArsonist

This entire federal government is a direct and immediate threat to our liberty and existence, not just Obama.

I’ve said this before - it’s NOT a choice we have in November - it’s a trap. I REJECT this notion of monarchy, that somehow electing Romney saves us from Obama and what he has already done and plans to do.

If you want to feel that your vote for Romney single-handedly saves the country, by all means, knock yourself out. I can already hear the bewilderment and lamenting after November 6.

We’ve suffered a coup and it’s ridiculous to think that we can vote the coup out of office, as if those who perpetrated the coup and those who benefit from it are going to follow the rule of law or will of the people.

I’m waaay past the point of practicing insanity and deceiving myself into thinking we have time to right the sinking ship by voting, much less voting for the Ruling Class candidate chosen for us.

History tells us what time it is.


210 posted on 07/06/2012 7:42:12 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: INVAR

You are entitled to your opinion, of course, but you are not entitled to put words into my mouth.

I never said that Romney was anything but what he is. He is not a savior or a conservative or a solution. Got that?

I said that Obama must not be allowed to remain in office to continue what he’s doing. Do you see the difference?

We must elect good people at every level in order to correct the mess we are in. The fix will take more than one or two elections. Ousting Obama is just one little step in doing so.

Or do we just start shooting?


211 posted on 07/07/2012 10:06:13 AM PDT by PoliticalArsonist
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To: W. W. SMITH

The media is already bashing Romney. So if they are so much for Romney why bash him. Look at what MSNBC and Andrea Mitchell did by editing that tape to make Romney look really dumb (left out key parts), etc.

What you say is insane. You are on the same side as the liberal media. The media is what has destroyed this country as they ruled this country for the last 100 years.


212 posted on 07/07/2012 11:37:27 AM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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To: PoliticalArsonist

I guess I do not see any difference in those that insist we MUST vote for Romney to get rid of Obama as anything less than trading one king for another.

Second, getting rid of Obama in no wise stops what he started or even puts the brakes on the agenda his comrades are carrying out. The reason Obama is able to do everything he has been able to do - is that EVERY CHECK AND BALANCE FROM EVERY BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT has been complicit, compromised, corrupted or working FOR the regime’s interests.

We are WAAAY past the voting box stage.

We are on the precipice of getting into the box-cars stage given the lessons of history. The Ruling Class has check-mated us all, and the majority still think the game is checkers.

Keep playing checkers then and see where that gets you. From your water, to your food to private property to what you have to buy or not allowed to buy - every aspect of life in this country has been placed in a vice that can be slammed shut at any time by men placed in power unaccountable to anyone and immovable.

I want some of us to survive what is coming with our faith intact. To do that - we have to begin thinking way beyond where most limit themselves, and understand where we are.

For if the bewilderment of last week’s SCOTUS rulings are any indication, the shock and incomprehension of what is coming next will probably cause mass heart failure for most.


213 posted on 07/07/2012 7:17:19 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: INVAR

Plan for the worst but hope for the best. It is not over until we stop trying to right the ship of state. The day may (or will) come when we have to resort to the 4th box of liberty but in the meantime, we cannot give up on replacing those who have failed to honor their oaths.


214 posted on 07/07/2012 9:19:46 PM PDT by PoliticalArsonist
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