Posted on 07/20/2012 11:02:14 AM PDT by Errant
If there was such a sign and it can be shown that someone/ anyone was injured or killed because a ccw permit holder was deprived of his/her legal constitutional RKBA, a major lawsuit needs to be waged against the theater. We need people to know that they can be held liable if people are hurt as a result of questionable policies on their premises.
Not true. From Handgunlaw.us:
Do “No Gun Signs” Have the Force of Law?“NO”
“No Firearm” signs in Colorado have no force of law unless they are posted on property that is specifically mentioned in State Law as being off limits to those with a Permit/License to Carry. If you are in a place not specifically mentioned in the law that is posted and they ask you to leave, you must leave. If you refuse to leave then you are breaking the law and can be charged. Even if the property is not posted and you are asked to leave you must leave. Always be aware of the possibility that responding Police Officers who may have been called without your knowledge and may not know the laws on trespass etc. could arrest you even if you are within the law.
It is legal to carry concealed in a public business that has a "No Firearms" sign, but if you are asked to leave, you must leave or you are trespassing.
In that crowded environment, it’s unlikely a CCW carrier would have had a clear shot without endangering a by-stander—people running around, getting in the way, blocking a shot at the last moment. In that situation, all a CCW carrier can to do to protect themselves and theirs. The rest of the attendees would have to make-do as best they could.
If a CCW did make a shot...and miss or have a pass-through into a by-stander, the libs and gun-grabbers would have been all over the CCW carrier like sharks in a feeding frenzy.
Yes, that's what I thought.
If you are in a place not specifically mentioned in the law that is posted and they ask you to leave, you must leave. If you refuse to leave then you are breaking the law and can be charged.
They could ask you to leave if you broke their chewing gum ban.
Under this Aurora scenario, I highly doubt that the theater owner would attempt to sue the concealed carry person who interdicted the murderer by preventing other loss of life and injury because he did not heed their wishes.
I agree. The room was dark, with tear gas adding to the confusion. The only way a CHL person could get a shot off would have been to shoot in the area of the flashes of light from the perp’s guns.
Note from the link that the city of Denver is contesting the State Law and judgment is pending? Aurora seems to be also unfriendly to concealed carry permit holders. Combine that with a theater chain that may prohibit concealed carry and you have a situation in which most CCW permit holders would simply leave their weapon at home on movie night, or in their car, or fear taking action due to legal consequences, unless the shooter was actually pointing his weapon at them or a family member.
Violence is increasing; the need for self-protection and to protect those around us, more important. Luckily, in the state where I live, municipalities are all pretty much pro CCW. Otherwise, knowing that most CCW holders follow the letter of the law and then some, they would not carry where not welcomed.
Thank you and all for contributing,
If the theater company has a no guns rule the victims should sue them for creating a killing zone. Banning guns in a place of public accommodation is creating a hazard just as much as chaining a fire exit closed is. With a sharp trial lawyer the victims can own the theater chain. The awards should run into the hundreds of millions of dollars.
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