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Akin: Hyenas in the GOP ignore medical science, eat their own
Rightly Concered Blog on American Family Association ^ | 8/22/2012 | Bryan Fischer

Posted on 08/22/2012 7:43:13 PM PDT by JediJones

The slavering, slobbering hyenas in the Republican party, by tearing at the flesh of their own senatorial candidate Todd Akin, are doing their best to blow their shot at taking control of the Senate. By eating their own, they are consuming themselves. And they seem too brainless to know it.

If he loses this race, it will be the fault of party poobahs, not Todd Akin. One of the party leaders actually suggested last night that the GOP try to run a third-party challenge to their own candidate. That would be a certifiably guaranteed way to forfeit victory to the opposition.

Akin’s words, for which he apologized even though he had no need to, were right. He was entirely correct to say that pregnancies in cases of forcible rape are rare.

He did not, by the way, say that pregnancy was impossible in rape, just rare.

How about the New York Times, the Bible of [left-wingers]? “Lowering Stress Improves Fertility Treatment.”

Said Dr. Domar, “If you’re really stressed out and depressed, the body seems to sense that’s not a good time to get pregnant.” Hmm. Sound suspiciously like the body shutting down, no?

Todd Akin uses one word that was grossly misinterpreted by his enemies, and the members of his own party throw his carcass to the jackals.

Now that Akin has decided to stay in...as he should, ignoring the hysterical bellows and the pitchforks, the ruling class Republicans will have to eat some crow and reverse themselves by resuming support for Akin’s candidacy. Certainly they cannot be so stupid as to commit hari-kiri by withholding help because they’re in some kind of snit. Can they?

The lesson from all of this: if you’re a Republican, and you want a friend in the party, you’d better buy a dog.

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TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: 2012electionbias; abortion; akin; akin4obama; eithgradepaper; legitimaterape; macacamoment; natteringnabobs; partyofrape; rape; raperape; romney
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To: Antonello
And I don't see anything in there about any of the women being pregnant at the time of the study.
It all seems to have been conducted quite some time after the rape happened.
181 posted on 08/23/2012 1:15:43 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: RC one
Rape was at one time, an integral part of war as was pillaging and it’s purpose was to impregnate.

Nonsense. Huge numbers of rape victims in war ended up dead.

The purpose was not impregnation, though some of that may have occurred.

The purpose was one of dominance, of showing the opposing troops could not defend their women, of control--physical and political, of demonstrating violently that their opponents had been defeated.

Forcible rape is seldom about 'sex' in any normal sense, it is about domination.

182 posted on 08/23/2012 1:22:59 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Antonello
You really need to think about this...

The finding of hypocortisolism is consistent with endocrine dysfunctioning in chronic sexual abuse victims and may have clinical implications with regard to treatment possibilities.

See, the chronic sexual abuse victims had a lower cortisol output (hypocortisolism) as they, sadly, were obviously more acclimatized mentally to such abuse and it wasn't as stressful for them any longer, compared to the "adolescent victims of single sexual trauma" which was still generating stress for them and caused them to produce higher cortisol levels.

Thanks for the link, though you probably didn't intend for it to help me as much as it did.

183 posted on 08/23/2012 1:29:19 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36
So you disagree with the conclusions given in the second article?

On the contrary, I believe the conclusions are accurate. You do know what hypocortisolism means, right? Hypo means suppressed, as opposed to hyper, which would mean elevated. The study's conclusion clearly states that rape-induced PTSD tends to cause HPA-axis dysregulation, resulting in depressed cortisol levels. This was the whole purpose of the study - to investigate why rape PTSD causes detached depression instead of the increased anxiety common in PTSD caused by other types of traumatic events.

184 posted on 08/23/2012 1:32:15 AM PDT by Antonello (Oh my God, don't shoot the banana!)
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To: Antonello
Here you go for some more...
Anxiety disorders and salivary cortisol levels in older adults: a population-based study
Conclusion
Older adults from the general population with long-lasting anxiety disorders had a lower cortisol awakening response than those without. This is consistent with the notion that chronic anxiety may result in downregulation of HPA-axis activity. Longitudinal studies are needed to confirm this mechanism.

Once again we see that chronic or "long term" stress/anxiety reduces cortisol production instead of increasing it. People become mentally acclimatized to whatever their situation is and the body reacts accordingly.

185 posted on 08/23/2012 1:42:50 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

See, the chronic sexual abuse victims had a lower cortisol output (hypocortisolism) as they, sadly, were obviously more acclimatized mentally to such abuse and it wasn't as stressful for them any longer, compared to the "adolescent victims of single sexual trauma" which was still generating stress for them and caused them to produce higher cortisol levels.

You 'forgot' to include the first sentence of the conclusion, which stated that the study supports the hypothesis that victims of a single sexual trauma experience the same dysregulation as chronic victims. Here is the conclusion in its entirety:

Conclusions

The results show evidence for a dysregulated HPA-axis in female adolescent victims of single sexual trauma with PTSD. The finding of hypocortisolism is consistent with endocrine dysfunctioning in chronic sexual abuse victims and may have clinical implications with regard to treatment possibilities.

Are you having difficulty comprehending what you are reading, or are you deliberately cherry picking to make the source appear to say the opposite of what it actually does?

186 posted on 08/23/2012 1:47:57 AM PDT by Antonello (Oh my God, don't shoot the banana!)
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To: philman_36

You asked me to produce a study contradicting your claim that rape causes elevated cortisol levels. I did.

Now its my turn. I challenge you to produce evidence that rape causes elevated cortisol levels.


187 posted on 08/23/2012 1:53:09 AM PDT by Antonello (Oh my God, don't shoot the banana!)
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To: Antonello
You do know what hypocortisolism means, right?
Why, yes, I do.
See reply 183, to wit...See, the chronic sexual abuse victims had a lower cortisol output (hypocortisolism) as they...

The study's conclusion clearly states that rape-induced PTSD tends to cause HPA-axis dysregulation, resulting in depressed cortisol levels.

This is what the study says in the "Background: section...

In chronic sexual abuse victims with post traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), the hypothalamic pituitary adrenal (HPA) axis can be dysregulated. In single rape victims, PTSD symptoms are hypothesized to function as a chronic stressor leading to similar HPA-axis dysregulation.

They concluded what they hypothesized.

188 posted on 08/23/2012 1:55:20 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Antonello
You 'forgot' to include the first sentence of the conclusion...
You forgot that I posted reply 178 which contains both sentences.

Are you having difficulty comprehending what you are reading, or are you deliberately cherry picking to make the source appear to say the opposite of what it actually does?
Nope! I'm not having difficulty nor am I cherry picking.

189 posted on 08/23/2012 1:58:47 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36
See reply 183, to wit...See, the chronic sexual abuse victims had a lower cortisol output (hypocortisolism) as they...

Feel free to reference my post #187, where I point out that you completely ignored the sentence linking single rape events with the same lowered cortisol.

190 posted on 08/23/2012 1:59:37 AM PDT by Antonello (Oh my God, don't shoot the banana!)
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To: philman_36
You forgot that I posted reply 178 which contains both sentences.

Then I assume we are in agreement that the study shows that single rape events display the same lowered cortisol levels as chronic abuse. Good. Let's move on to your proof that rape increases cortisol.

191 posted on 08/23/2012 2:02:52 AM PDT by Antonello (Oh my God, don't shoot the banana!)
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To: philman_36

I’ve got to call it a night. I’ll check back tomorrow for any responses.

This was fun. Thanks for the research project. Have a good night.


192 posted on 08/23/2012 2:09:07 AM PDT by Antonello (Oh my God, don't shoot the banana!)
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To: Antonello
You asked me to produce a study contradicting your claim that rape causes elevated cortisol levels. I did.

Sorry, I don't see where your link does that.

I challenge you to produce evidence that rape causes elevated cortisol levels.
I doubt that such "evidence" exists.

I just can't envision somebody at the scene of the crime in a lab coat with a mouth swab or urine sample cup in hand asking the woman to help them out with their research while she's being raped.

193 posted on 08/23/2012 2:11:09 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Antonello
Then I assume we are in agreement that the study shows that single rape events display the same lowered cortisol levels as chronic abuse.
You assume wrongly. We are not in agreement.
194 posted on 08/23/2012 2:12:23 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Antonello
Let's move on to your proof that rape increases cortisol.
And what you're doing here is BS too!

I contend that stress, not rape, causes increased cortisol production.

You ain't that sly.

195 posted on 08/23/2012 2:15:31 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: newzjunkey
The GOP is now the smeared as "the Party of Rape" thanks to half-baked Akin.

And prior to this, the Rats NEVER, EVER smeared the GOP.

196 posted on 08/23/2012 2:15:40 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: Antonello
Let's move on to your proof that rape increases cortisol.

As I said...I contend that stress, not rape, causes increased cortisol production.

Cortisol and Stress: How to Stay Healthy By Elizabeth Scott, M.S.
Although stress isn’t the only reason that cortisol is secreted into the bloodstream, it has been termed “the stress hormone” because it’s also secreted in higher levels during the body’s ‘fight or flight’ response to stress, and is responsible for several stress-related changes in the body.

Elevated cortisol from stress after the rape can be how a woman prevents herself from becoming pregnant.
How hard is this to grasp?!

197 posted on 08/23/2012 2:26:50 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: RichInOC

Liberals, Democrats, and mostly Republicans are pissed off (excuse me) because Akin is totally for life while Romney and Ryan are not.

Akin pleases God and shows strength with his choice to stay in plus he shows human respect for what it is worth..nothing.


198 posted on 08/23/2012 2:35:41 AM PDT by stpio
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To: Antonello
Stress: Constant stress puts your health at risk
The long-term activation of the stress-response system — and the subsequent overexposure to cortisol and other stress hormones — can disrupt almost all your body's processes.

That's why you keep seeing the word "chronic" used in the studies!
The "chronic" doesn't react as they should because they've disrupted the way their body is supposed to work, even with their own cortisol production.

199 posted on 08/23/2012 2:36:57 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Antonello
So your 'fight or flight' mechanism is reduced when you're stressed out all of the time.

No wonder liberals want us all worried all of the time.
If we're "stressed out" all of the time we won't fight back as we naturally would.

200 posted on 08/23/2012 2:46:43 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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