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Looks Like All Those Republican Debates Were a Good Idea After All
frontpagemag.com ^ | Oct 4, 2012 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 10/04/2012 5:59:14 AM PDT by expat1000

Remember that long awful stretch of endless Republican debates that everyone was tired of. A long grueling schedule of 27 debates. Who could that possibly help?

Mitt Romney, apparently.

Obama came to the McCain debates with some experience after the primaries, but this time it was Romney who had gone through his own trial by fire during the primaries. Romney had gone through plenty of high profile debates before, but the epic Republican primaries in 2012 had been the debates that never ended. The debates may have worn on our nerves, but after going up against Gingrich and Perry, the showdown with Obama was smooth sailing.

Obama had faced off against fairly weak debaters like Hillary Clinton and McCain and that was a while back. Since then he’s had an adoring media corps carry his bags. No one has talked back to him or argued with him and focusing on doing The View and Glamour Magazine did not help prepare him for this.

Obama is still uncomfortable speaking without a strong crowd reaction. He reads lines off a teleprompter more naturally than he recites them from memory. He’s used to being adored, not to being challenged and his instincts have gotten rusty since the last time he did this.

Romney has gotten used to playing to tough crowds and getting audiences who don’t like him personally to accept him. His opponent is a lot weaker with an emotional support network. After four years, it’s clearer than ever that Obama has never really been tested.


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: 2012debates

1 posted on 10/04/2012 5:59:17 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: expat1000

Romney has it easy debating an extreme leftist. It’s the conservatives that give him a hard time.


2 posted on 10/04/2012 6:00:52 AM PDT by bkepley
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To: bkepley

>>Romney has it easy debating an extreme leftist. It’s the conservatives that give him a hard time.

Good insight, that. Still, his debating skills have definitely improved since the primaries.


3 posted on 10/04/2012 6:05:27 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: expat1000

Thank you Newt Gingrich!! You schooled Mitt Romney on how to debate and how to not be intimidated by either your opponents or the moderator.

A take-charge executive appeared on stage last nignt!


4 posted on 10/04/2012 6:08:18 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

When Obama talked about Bill Clinton and his economy, Mitt shoulda said:

During the 90’s, the internet was born. It was a phenomenal time for business. Bill Clinton let American companies computerize the world and was smart enough to step back and let them do it. If you would have been president, we would still be running 8088’s and using 51/4 inch floppies!

My take...


5 posted on 10/04/2012 6:17:55 AM PDT by montomike (Politics should be about service and not a lucrative, money-making opportunity!)
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To: bkepley
"easy debating"

That's the way I felt. Obama is basically a Marxist robot who regurgitates the leftist talking points fed to him by his handlers. When someone, like Romney, has answers and challenges to his pat idiocies, he's lost. Romney was debating someone who is virtually ignorant about basic economics. Obama is actually a dimwit about many things..but the area where he's most ignorant is economics.

6 posted on 10/04/2012 6:18:12 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: montomike

It was Newt Gingrich’s balanced budget and welfare reform that Clinton and the Rats like to take credit for.

Likewise, when Pelosi took over the House in 2006 the deficits started to soar and the economy went to hell - with help from the RINOs.

I wish Mitt would have mentioned that.


7 posted on 10/04/2012 6:28:06 AM PDT by BigBobber
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To: driftless2

Surely he must have had a few econ courses at Columbia and Hahvard. I wonder what his grades were. /s


8 posted on 10/04/2012 6:30:10 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: BigBobber

It was Newt Gingrich’s balanced budget and welfare reform that Clinton and the Rats like to take credit for.
I wish Mitt would have mentioned that.

No because Obama could come back and remind everyone that Reagan had a Democratic House and Senate during his time and he gets all the credit. Plus there was no need to bring it up as Romney did well with what he did say.


9 posted on 10/04/2012 6:38:23 AM PDT by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: ecomcon

You sound like you probably had a few college econ courses. I had one. Most econ profs are hardcore libs/leftists. Some of them probably helped Obama prep for the debate. (snicker)


10 posted on 10/04/2012 6:45:46 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: expat1000
I think Romney did a good job of explaining America's way out of this mess. Jobs are great for the people that have them, so they can provide for their families. They are also important to the country because more taxpayers are a key component to fighting the debt.

What he needs to do in the next economic debate is keep up the "Jobs" attack, but come in from the flank. A perfect opening would be the 2009 statement by newly elected Pres Obama saying that only government was big enough to get us out of the economic crisis. The truth is that expanding government spending and debt creation has been like helping a drowning man by handing him an anchor.

11 posted on 10/04/2012 6:47:35 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: expat1000

Romney also did a great job of handling the Straw Man on the stage. Didn’t anyone explain to Barry that when you have someone talking back to you, that rhetorical device doesn’t work? FLASH POLL (DEBATE WINNER): Romney 71%, Straw Man 22%, Professor Sotero 7%.


12 posted on 10/04/2012 6:51:18 AM PDT by Thickman (Obama - President Ubiquitous (a.k.a. P.U.))
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To: expat1000

Let’s face facts: Obama’s excessive use of a teleprompter decreases his ability to think spontaneously.

That would happen to anyone if they used a teleprompter at every single event.

Add to this the fact that Obama has not sat down with real reporters and answered tough questions (preferring softballs from Letterman) and his ability to free-think is diminished further.

It is not that remarkable, then, to see Obama’s performance last night.


13 posted on 10/04/2012 6:58:06 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: expat1000
Obama looked like the Harlem Globetrotters if the Miami Heat came out of the opponents' locker room rather than the Washington Press Corps Generals. Lebron Romney smiled at him and Obama just gulped.

Suddenly spinning the ball on his finger just didn't cut it anymore.

14 posted on 10/04/2012 7:35:36 AM PDT by KarlInOhio ("Government is the only thing that we all belong to"=implicit repeal of the 13th amendment for all.)
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To: expat1000

uh, uh, and uh, uh......He was uh an un embarassment un and totally uh out of his league.....

BTW did anyone bother to count the “uh”s and “and duh”s?


15 posted on 10/04/2012 7:37:12 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Of course it is rasonable to use the teleprompter at some events...like when talking to a bunch of fifth graders.


16 posted on 10/04/2012 7:43:02 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Erik Latranyi
Let’s face facts: Obama’s excessive use of a teleprompter decreases his ability to think spontaneously.

Even the most mundane things which a regular executive or many of us could do Obama uses a teleprompter. I noticed this early on when he would use a teleprompter to introduce someone he was nominating to a cabinet position.

It's ridiculous. If an executive or manager can't even do enough research to get to know the person they are tapping for a position, even enough to introduce them extemporaneously, that really speaks volumes about how much regard he has for the person chosen.

This appears to be common with Obama. He doesn't appear to even want to exert minimal effort to be gracious.

17 posted on 10/04/2012 2:34:13 PM PDT by Crolis ("To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it." -GKC)
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