I think the general did the right thing, but not sure the case rises to the level where he should ignore the chain of command. I’m glad there are still leaders out there willing to do the right thing.
Duty, Honor, Country
America needs to tell this General: “We got your 6.”
Sounds good.
But get back to me when there is documentation of an actual “arrest” of a U.S. Army General.
Under UCMJ disobeying orders would not cause an arrest of military personnel other than a superior officer ordering that the service member be relieved of duty.
“..against all enemies foreign and domestic.”
I hope our military in their various academies, learned what happened to Stalin’s top generals and that they have the vision (or sense of self-preservation) to keep it from happening here and now.
OTOH, a bullet to the back of the neck is at least quick and relatively painless, compared to being systematically starved to death like so many of Stalin’s Ukrainian farmers, or systematically beaten and frozen to death in gulags like so many of his academicians and intelectuals.
The rest of us might well end up envying our officers for their swift deaths.
More conflicting (Lies) out on this situation. Reports indicated that Africom did not have a special forces detachment which is given to all four star commands. But this report indicates HAM was ready to deploy a special forces unit.
Well explain why we blindly armed the Sinola cartel in Mexico then, Mr Panetta!
“Within 30 seconds to a minute after making the move to respond, his second in command apprehended General Ham and told him that he was now relieved of his command.”
Apprehended and relieved of command?
And yet somehow, today, he’s still the AFRICOM commander...
http://www.africom.mil/GenCarterHam.asp
If he were “apprehended and relieved of command” on September 11, then how has he been putting out press releases and statements on any number of issues for the last month?
This will definitely create a whiplash against the Obama Administration!
General Carter Ham, thanks for trying.
Sooo what this article states to me, is that General Ham didn’t select a second in command that was loyal to him...
but instead was a drone in the collective..
Ham may have assumed democrat functionary’s can be loyal..
On the other hand Ham may be a democrat himself..
HAm was not in charge.. he didn’t know his men.. or HIS situation..
Seems pretty much the case with Petreaus as well..
Zero like Clintoon has seemed to salt traitors in the ranks.. maybe even George Bush.. Remember Bush KEPT most of Clintoons lawyers at the Justice Department..
Little doubt the Chiefs of Staff are functional Marxists too.. like the Cabinet..
Zero just may have critical mass met for a Coup D’Etat..
He also OWNS the FBI, NSA, CIA, and BATF... supported by a corrupt Justice Department.. Plus Zero OWNS the Unions meaning the Police, Firefighters and Teachers.. in most all States..
A Coup D’Etat is possible.. assuming it hasn’t happened ALREADY..
It’s possible Romney is the same cabals Plan “B” in case Zero totally screws up.. and causes the sheeple to STAMPEDE..
I am ready to stampede NOW.. in ways already have.. (metaphorically)..
This is one version of the back story that is being oft-repeated. I don’t know if it’s true or not, but it’s going to need irrefutable documentation, or a formal, sourced statement from someone who was there with General Ham and witnessed this.
I saw Rep. Jason Chaffetz on Greta’s show in the past few days. Chaffetz went on a fact-finding mission to Libya a week or so after the Benghazi murders, accompanied by General Ham. Chaffetz stated that he personally asked General Ham if there had been assets under his command that could have responded to calls for help from Benghazi during the 7+ hour assault. According to Chaffetz, General Ham said that, yes, there were assets under his command who were in a position to help, but that help had never been requested.
It sure seems to me that if General Ham was prepared to “go rogue” and had been relieved of his command on the spot, he would have told Rep. Chaffetz that fact.
Everyone wants to believe that our admirals and generals are not political and have great moral courage. The truth is, our admirals and generals come from the farms, towns and cities of The United States. They are not gods. They have families to take care of. They have a reputation within military circles to protect. Most of them are still young enough to want to have a good job after they retire. Let me give you an example. Bill Clinton was the Commander In Chief. He was impeached for lying. Many people believed he would resign. Not slick Willy. Trust is essential in the military. If you are given an order in combat, your Commander has to trust that you will execute that order. The whole battle may hinge on you being trustworthy. When Clinton was impeached, how many generals or admirals retired over it? They could have. Their retirement is a comfortable one. They told the Democrats that they were willing to look the other way about Clinton’s lying. Something they would never tolerate from even a Second Lieutenant. Now, the argument they make is that if they embarrass the Democrats, then the Democrats will get revenge on them by cutting the military budget. Well, guess what, the Democrats will cut the military budget anyway. Obama can count on our admirals and generals looking away. He saw the precedent set during the Clinton administration.
He may have been threatened, but he was never relieved or arrested. When an Officer is relieved, he doesn’t get to stay there.
This story is completely bogus. GEN Ham has not been relieved. His replacement (GEN Rodriguez) was nominated on 18 Oct, but will not take command until confirmed by the Senate, sometime after the election. Until then, GEN Ham remains in command.
Find some FACTS that say otherwise.
If this is true, and I have reservations, then they cannot prosecute General Ham without admitting that everything the Administration has said for the past six weeks is a lie......catch-22..........
This man was actually arrested? What do the Congressmen that had spoken with him say about this? Good grief:(( What has happened to our country:( I know...Obama:(
Are they reporting the rumor or do they have someone to back this story up yet?
I want Gen. Ham re-instated of his command or promoted to either Joint Chiefs of Staff or Secretary of Defense...