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To: danielmryan

Yes. I think what you’re saying here is very elucidating—it’s really the fervency above all, that’s off-putting.

The GOP would help improve its image vastly IMO by not being seen as the Religion Party (which doesn’t mean being anti-religion either).


123 posted on 11/09/2012 9:06:23 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State)
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To: Utmost Certainty

So it’s alright to be fervently pro-life as long as we don’t bring religion into it?


125 posted on 11/09/2012 9:10:53 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Utmost Certainty
The GOP would help improve its image vastly IMO by not being seen as the Religion Party (which doesn’t mean being anti-religion either).

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I think I understand, but please educate me. Are you suggesting that the GOP become pro-abortion? Should it favor homosexual marriage? Should it abandon support for Israel?

129 posted on 11/09/2012 9:14:39 PM PST by stillonaroll
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To: Utmost Certainty

Actually our only hope with non-whites, is through their faith.

Social conservatives know that their conservative economics can only work in a socon nation, the social conservatism creates voters like Evangelicals, who cannot be bought off by libs waving goodies and ill-gotten gains.

There is a reason that the left is made up of the non-religious, it is because they are only interested in economics, and in their perception, the left delivers to them and the right wants to deprive them of their short term, individual gains, by preaching that conservative economics is better for the people as a whole, for the nation as a whole, for the long run, and that they are more honest and fair.

Only true conservatives, social conservative voters, will accept conservative economics, after all, this capitalist nation was founded by social conservatives.


136 posted on 11/09/2012 9:24:28 PM PST by ansel12
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To: Utmost Certainty
So it’s alright to be fervently pro-life as long as we don’t bring religion into it?

No answer?

138 posted on 11/09/2012 9:28:26 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Utmost Certainty
Yes. I think what you’re saying here is very elucidating—it’s really the fervency above all, that’s off-putting.

The GOP would help improve its image vastly IMO by not being seen as the Religion Party (which doesn’t mean being anti-religion either)

Thanks. And the socons would do much better if they started promoting a positive vision and eschewed anything reminiscent of "Sinners At The Hands Of An Angry God."

Something like:

"What is a moral society, a society that turns back to America's Judeo-Christian backbone?

"It's a society where little old ladies can walk along the streets without fear.

"A society where you see a group of youths on the street and smile instead of shrinking and crossing the street.

"A society where little girls are never killed by stray bullets.

"A society where you can be hearty instead of guarded.

"A society where your kids can play outside, unfearing and unmolested.

"A society where your neighbour is your neighbour, not a potential rival.

"A society free of artificial fears and fearful artifice.

"Now, how do we get there?..."

(and such forth.)

309 posted on 11/10/2012 5:22:30 PM PST by danielmryan
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