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To: Utmost Certainty
The GOP would help improve its image vastly IMO by not being seen as the Religion Party (which doesn’t mean being anti-religion either).

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I think I understand, but please educate me. Are you suggesting that the GOP become pro-abortion? Should it favor homosexual marriage? Should it abandon support for Israel?

129 posted on 11/09/2012 9:14:39 PM PST by stillonaroll
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To: stillonaroll
by not being seen as the Religion Party

Would it help the Democrats to not be seen as the murder, filth and perversion party?

Oh, that's right, the government schools, the media and the entertainment industry have been paid to dictate how each party is viewed.

Filth is good, traditonal American morality is redefined as hate and not coool man.

The right wing is proven right again. The left has succeeded in changing evil to good and changing good to evil. Just as the right predicted they would do, while being attacked for that correct prediction for fifty years. Many of these attacks have come from republican social liberals.

This has been done with a large supporting cast of various America-rejecting social liberals, libertarians, cowards and big mouths such as Kneel Bortz and his ilk.

137 posted on 11/09/2012 9:24:32 PM PST by OriginalIntent (undo all judicial activism and its results)
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To: stillonaroll
Very good points stillonaroll.

The fically convervative but social liberal types have been in denial for decades that the social conservative's warnings have been right all along (all the while being smeared and demonized for telling the truth).

Now that the social liberal utopia is upon us, the same liberals(RINOS and many libertarians) that were wrong before are now suggesting that conservatives turn their backs on four hundered years of American civilization and concede to becoming a European cesspool clone.

141 posted on 11/09/2012 9:34:48 PM PST by OriginalIntent (undo all judicial activism and its results)
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To: stillonaroll

Pro-abortion? Of course not. But realistically, arguing that abortion should be categorically banned under any circumstances isn’t going to win them elections.

Gay marriage? No, they don’t need to favor it—certainly not at a Federal level. If people wanted to be more clever in arguments against gay marriage, they could take the stance that gay marriage is discriminatory against unmarried people, etc.

Overall, you may not like it, but I think the GOP is in a better position to let these things go and assert them as states’ rights issues. The culture war isn’t ‘winnable’ on a national scale, it’s something better engaged on local levels.

Support for Israel under pretext of mutual national security interests would be palatable. Supporting Israel under pretext of Christian-Jewish friendship or something of this nature, wouldn’t be.


142 posted on 11/09/2012 9:34:55 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State)
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