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To: Reaganite Republican

I don’t think libertarians are necessarily a conservative vote. The “liber” part of their name is not accidentally reminiscent of “liberalism”.

They are pro-abortion, pro-gay, pro-drugs, and anti-foreign defense footprint.

Just looking at that list makes me wonder why folks think the everyday liberatarian would vote for a conservative.


2 posted on 11/16/2012 3:26:26 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

AGREED IN FULL

I find the Libertarian social issues AND military stance -particularly re. Iran- utterly revolting... not at all what I’D call conservative, either


4 posted on 11/16/2012 3:29:20 AM PST by Reaganite Republican
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To: xzins
You are ignorant of where the word Liberal was first derived. Our Founding Fathers were all Liberals in the sense that they believed that liberty for the individual was paramount. Since then the collectivists have co-opted the word and now "Liberal" means totalitarian.

If republicans wish to win one day they might consider the skills needed to form a coalition. As long as they disparage and belittle those who don't think exactly as they do good luck with those close elections.

7 posted on 11/16/2012 3:32:19 AM PST by corkoman (Release the Palin!)
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To: xzins

Nah, that’s not true. If anything, Libertarians are more reminiscent of original ‘true conservatives’.

The semantics have become confused and conflated with all sorts of nonsense over time. Philosophically speaking, the US was founded as a Liberal nation—in the sense of what is now known as ‘Classical Liberalism’ or Libertarianism in the context of US politics. What happened was that the Progressives/Socialists essentially stole the word ‘Liberal’ for themselves, and so those who desired to stay true to America’s (Classical) Liberal foundations generally became the Conservatives.


8 posted on 11/16/2012 3:34:13 AM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State)
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To: xzins
The “liber” part of their name is not accidentally reminiscent of “liberalism”.

"Libertarian" is derived from the word "liberty".

11 posted on 11/16/2012 3:37:02 AM PST by Drew68
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To: xzins; Reaganite Republican
You'll rarely see a Democrat advocating the use of the death penalty in narcotics cases, but that's very common with Conservatives.

So why would a pro-drug Libertarian vote for a Conservative?

14 posted on 11/16/2012 3:38:27 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: xzins

Libertarians too often confuse liberty with license.


15 posted on 11/16/2012 3:43:04 AM PST by Jacquerie (Obama voters don't know what they lost, because they never learned what they had.)
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To: xzins

Most of them I know are also pro-Open borders.


26 posted on 11/16/2012 3:56:42 AM PST by MachIV
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To: xzins

small l libertarians are just as if not more conservative than most so called conservatives..

we believe in a literal interpretation of the constitution..

we do not want to be ruled over by the federal government, regardless of which side of the political spectrum the feds are ruling by....

revert to the constitution and most if not all our nations problems will just go away, THAT is what we believe in..

which would you rather have, a party that has a cool platform that gets discarded once in power, or a platform that you can 80% agree with, can work to change, and know that once elected will stick with the platform?

In other words, do you like being deceived or not?


32 posted on 11/16/2012 4:10:28 AM PST by joe fonebone (The clueless... they walk among us, and they vote...)
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To: xzins

Yeah... That’s it. It waasn’t your pro-gay, pro-choice, anti-gun, bigger government RINO...

It was a fringe 1% Party.

Some of you idiots will never learn.


67 posted on 11/16/2012 6:01:23 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: xzins

Bill Maher says he’s a Libertarian, ‘nuff said.


99 posted on 11/16/2012 8:05:25 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: xzins

I once heard Michael Savage say that Liberatarians are nothing more than confused liberals.


112 posted on 11/16/2012 9:20:52 AM PST by Jean2
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To: xzins

“They are pro-abortion, pro-gay, pro-drugs, and anti-foreign defense footprint.”

They are neither “pro-abortion” nor “anti-abortion” and I have found Libertarians with personal views on both sides, with the exception of the law, where they are pro-Liberty and pro-personal responsibility, as opposed to pro-government.

The same holds true for “gay” and “drug” issues. They don’t just mouth Conservative small government, limited government precepts, they believe in them, in matters of law, above and beyond their own moral choces they might make.

their excessive foreign policy isolationism is another matter


125 posted on 11/16/2012 12:29:45 PM PST by Wuli
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To: xzins

>> They are pro-abortion, pro-gay, pro-drugs, and anti-foreign defense footprint.

This generalization is getting old.


297 posted on 11/20/2012 2:47:05 AM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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