A left leaning co-worker today was trying to absolve liberalism of any blame in the shooting, and stated it was the prepper mother’s fault since she got the guns in private sales, therefore, they were “illegal” guns. I said “And you want to pass another law? You just proved laws don’t stop criminals from getting guns.”
New Orleans Begins Confiscating Firearms as Water Recedes
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/08/national/nationalspecial/08cnd-storm.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
NRA: The Untold Story of Gun Confiscation After Katrina
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-taU9d26wT4
BS. They will if they are made to believe the order is lawful, and these are not the sharpest knives in the drawer.
Here is my comment:
I was born and raised in California and have lived here my whole life. My father was a Marine Corps gunnery sergeant and a Korean War veteran. One of my uncles landed at Utah Beach at Normandy in WWII and earned two bronze stars and his brother was with the 1'st Marine Div. on Guadal Canal. I am 52 years old and have been hunting, shooting, reloading, collecting, restoring, carrying, firearms since the cradle and will continue to the grave. I will not turn in any type of firearm to any agency under any circumstance for any reason provided, either requested or at the point of a gun or threat of arrest. I will use my weapons to defend against any such tyranny and with a clear conscience defy anyone attempting to carry out any illegal order in clear violation of the second amendment and my God given rights. That for me is the rubicon crossing for once free men give up arms there is no one left to defend freedom. I will be dammed if some evil little sob becomes an excuse and a catalyst for larger evils to be spawned and unrestricted power and control be granted to anyone other than free men.
Everyone I know feels the same way, how about you? I have already seen it happen in California when they banned Chinese and War Saw pact semi auto SKS rifles. I did not own one but hundreds of thousands were already owned when they were banned and nobody turned them in. Little is talked about that. You could count with one set of fingers how many out of half a million rifles that were turned in and given up within California. I have two family members in law enforcement who would refuse to enforce any confiscation orders.
My grandfathers, uncles, father, are all in the grave and warned me this day could come. They all either gave blood and/or fought for this nation and our freedoms. My heritage goes back to the founding of this nation and have had family fight in every war this nation has engaged in from its founding, on its own soil, and on foreign shores. I would not shy away from that responsibility to defend the freedom my family has fought and bleed to preserve, so help me God.
All the President needs to do is establish an Executive Order that stops "gun checks" from being performed by the federal authorities. Without them, NO weapons will be sold through an FFL. The FFLs will shortly all shut down their businesses, cutting off commercial supply.
Who is going to stop the EO? The Senate? The Courts? Congress? Don't make me laugh. Nothing to stop him will happen without Senate approval - even impeachment. 0bama is currently immune from checks and balances, period!
Part of said Executive Order would be establishing penalties on selling, owning, or possessing a plethora of weapons, magazines, etc., but not all. It would also establish the machinery to prevent a "black market" on guns, ammo, parts, accessories. The federal agencies to do it are already there and up and running.
Eventually, piecemeal, many weapons owners would be come criminals. Lock 'em up! The examples will be plentiful and include serious jail time. After many are cowed, eventually promise "amnesty" to those who turn in their "illegal" weapons, ammo, accessories, etc. - or face more draconian penalties.
It won't be a show of force like the British marching on Lexington and Concord. It will be destroying gun owners - one at a time. Armed resistance is unlikely to coalesce but if it does it is put down in a decisive and deadly way (remember Waco, Ruby Ridge?).
It will be a piecemeal takeover, not one that would likely start an armed revolt which confiscation or a wholesale ban would do. In about 10 years the "frog" will slowly boil and then die. The few remaining stragglers will then be stamped out as they surface.
Of course criminals, gangbangers, and drug gangs will still have their weapons and plenty of them. Any use of a firearm against them by "civilians" would continue to reveal misscreants who will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
Honest citizens in Mexico are almost completely disarmed. Look how well it has worked out for them. Do you think their government cares they are sitting ducks with no means of self-defense and are being murdered in the thousands?
Why would our government be any different? It will be run by the same type of corrupt and power mad people?
Anyhow, that is how I see it possibly playing out. I hope I am just having a little nightmare and I will wake up soon.
ALL: this is a GREAT read:
http://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2012/09/11/what-i-saw-at-the-coup/
Katrina proves they will, and gladly.
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