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To: muir_redwoods
Good suggestions. I hope it doesn't come to that. But here are some scenarios that might happen:

1. A neighbor knows you own guns. He collects a $100 fee for turning you in. Obama's enforcers come to your house. They can't find the guns. They arrest you on suspicion of owning and concealing guns. They tear your house apart, they tear your land apart. Your home is destroyed. You've hidden your guns well off your property where they'll never be found but you are now in jail under arrest. Now you need to hire a lawyer. You've lost your job. Your family is homeless. Now you lose them. Your kids are taken away by the welfare workers.

You see, they know how this works. They know you're defenseless against legal entanglements. Now they may show up at someone's house and kills them on the doorstep. That will certainly send a message,...but he'll be hunted down and arrested or killed. They know you have a career, a family, savings, a home,...and they can get it all anytime they want.

So a few ATF guys are killed in raids. You think Obama cares????? They are just bumps in the road.

This is going to be very interesting to watch. Either they have under-estimated the reaction of gun owners and it will backfire on them with deadly consequences,...or they have a smart game plan to destroy gun owners in this country and they are willing to risk a few dead ATF agents to accomplish it.

17 posted on 01/08/2013 7:18:36 AM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: Doc Savage

Not to nitpick but my nearest neighbor is 1/4 mile away and ptobaly has more guns that I do. If it came to it a person could turn in the Mini-14 and keep the AR, AK, M1 whatever, sort of a throw down gun for the Feds. It might be that leaving them a few to find protects the rest. This needs further tactical review but there’s a solution in there somewhere.


19 posted on 01/08/2013 7:32:29 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: Doc Savage

Maybe your scenario occurs, but what happens when you and a hundred million gun owners are released? In your scenario we will have a hundred million people with nothing to lose.

I think both sides are waiting for a spark. Once this powder keg let’s loose all bets are off.


23 posted on 01/08/2013 7:53:03 AM PST by PJammers (I can't help it... It's my idiom!)
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To: Doc Savage
"A neighbor knows you own guns."

We don't talk about what guns we may or may not own.

24 posted on 01/08/2013 7:53:17 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Doc Savage

We will have to get the word out fast when the first confiscation happens. They may shut down all communications before they begin.

A piecemeal plan will not work, there will have to be a coordinated effort that will take thousands of LE. I don’t think they can keep their plans secret then.

the first set of raids will be a surprise but then Game On.


34 posted on 01/08/2013 9:48:51 AM PST by USAF80
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