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To: edge919

“Yes, and I hope you understand the law was amended in 1986. We have to look at the law that was in effect at the time Obama would have been adopted, not what it was in 1986 or later.”

I’m citing the 1952 Immigration and Nationality Act also known as the McCarron-Walters Act. It was amended by the 1965 Act to Amend the Immigration and Nationality also known as the Hart-Celler Act.

As for the rest not under Perkins v Elg 307 U.S. 325 (1939)

“As municipal law determines how citizenship may be acquired, it follows that persons may have a dual nationality. [Footnote 1] And the mere fact that the plaintiff may have acquired Swedish citizenship by virtue of the operation of Swedish law on the resumption of that citizenship by her parents does not compel the conclusion that she has lost her own citizenship acquired under our law. As at birth she became a citizen of the United States, that citizenship must be deemed to continue unless she has been deprived of it through the operation of a treaty or congressional enactment or by her voluntary action in conformity with applicable legal principles.”

Can you cite any treaty/US law that says a child loses his citizenship by adoption by a foreign national?

“Obama had to naturalize”

Not Us Law at the time of his move to Indonesia.


287 posted on 01/28/2013 11:22:55 PM PST by 4Zoltan
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To: 4Zoltan
I’m citing the 1952 Immigration and Nationality Act also known as the McCarron-Walters Act. It was amended by the 1965 Act to Amend the Immigration and Nationality also known as the Hart-Celler Act.

It was also amended in 1986 when the law took out the part I just quoted. Either you ignored this originally or you were looking only at the law as amended after 1986. Which is it??

As for the rest not under Perkins v Elg 307 U.S. 325 (1939)

Do you have a point?? This doesn't address countries that do NOT allow dual citizenship. And unlike Obama, the person in this decision was born in this country to naturalized parents. Did Elg have a stepfather or adoptive father who listed her under a new surname in the other country?

Can you cite any treaty/US law that says a child loses his citizenship by adoption by a foreign national?

I already cited the law and showed that it did NOT include adoption as an exemption to loss of citizenship. The exemptions were based on naturalization of the parents, which didn't apply to Lolo Soetoro who was already a foreign national. The acquisition of Indonesian citizenship through adoption is not considered naturalization.

Not Us Law at the time of his move to Indonesia.

Nonsense. Your selective quotation misses the context of my comment. I said if Obama did NOT have U.S. citizenship prior to becoming an Indonesian citizen, then he would have to had to naturalize to become a U.S. citizen after he was sent to the U.S. to live with his grandparents.

288 posted on 01/28/2013 11:43:09 PM PST by edge919
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