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Evidence Found That Obama Used The Name Barack Soetoro At Columbia University Address
http://www.scribd.com/doc/128217485/Acxiom-Database-Pull-Shows-Obama-Also-Using-Name-Barack-Soetoro ^

Posted on 03/03/2013 9:02:22 AM PST by Cold Case Posse Supporter

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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

has to have Obummer`s passport records ther if he was living in LA

The Consulate General of the Republic of Indonesia in Los Angeles

Address

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3457 Wilshire Boulevard
Los Angeles, CA 90010

Phone

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(213) 383 - 5126

Fax

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(213) 487 - 3971

Website

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www.kemlu.go.id/losangeles/Pages/default.aspx


41 posted on 03/03/2013 1:02:19 PM PST by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Marchione.)
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To: silverleaf
Story goes his mother surrendered his American citizenship to claim Indonesian citizenship because she hated the US anyawy and only Indonesian citizens could attend the school his Indonesian military stepfather chose for him (school open to kids of high rollers

Well, that at the time an Indonesian citizen in Indonesia could not marry anyone who was not an Indonesian citizen, necessitating her surrendering her U.S. citizenship to legally marry him in Indonesia. Even now the United States recognizes that a child's citizenship follows that of the custodial parent as when a newly naturalized U.S. citizen confers citizenship on his minor children in his custody. Also in Indonesia at the time of his adoption, one could not adopt someone who was not an Indonesian citizen.
42 posted on 03/03/2013 1:28:56 PM PST by aruanan
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To: silverleaf

I think she surrendered his US citizenship so he could become an Indonesian, too.

We are so screwed by global elitists. They own us Americans now like we are nomadic peasants in turd world desert nations. Same with Euro-peons.

The brain washing (political correctness self hate/death culture re-education campaign) has been amazingly successful. We deserve everything we get for being so dang stupid - weak approval sucks.


43 posted on 03/03/2013 3:13:46 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: STD

He illegally camagigned for his uncle in Kenya who won and oversaw the slaughter of Christians by Muslims. He did this illegally- while he was a US Senator. The Republictraitors did not say a word about it. And now look.

Evil “progresses” when it is not called out and opposed. Now it is the President. He’ll gladly murder us, too.


44 posted on 03/03/2013 3:21:17 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

read later


45 posted on 03/03/2013 3:27:00 PM PST by Ditter
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To: SaraJohnson
I think she surrendered his US citizenship so he could become an Indonesian, too.

Doesn't work like that. Parents cannot renounce their children's citizenship - only adults can do that for themselves, and even then only in limited circumstances.
46 posted on 03/03/2013 4:01:07 PM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: SaraJohnson; Arthalion

See post #24 by arthalion.

If 0 was 3 (and at most 5) at the time of the Indonesia connection, then he was way too young.

Even at 10, in 1971, he was TOO YOUNG.

Court cases notwithstanding; there was no internet back then and things were much more “loose”; no database crossreferencing and matching.

Plus if you’re in the midst of filling out forms, you just put down whatever is opportune.....

So people put down whatever they wanted to.

Doesn’t make it right, but “it is what it is”....


47 posted on 03/03/2013 5:05:18 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: aruanan

But didn’t she keep renewing her us passport during this time?

How could she have done that and at the same time given up her us citizenship to marry Lolo?


48 posted on 03/03/2013 5:08:12 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: justiceseeker93; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Cold Case Posse Supporter.


49 posted on 03/03/2013 5:27:47 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine; texasredhead8712; ValerieTexas; Berosus; KlueLass

Peter Levenda used to be active on the defunct online forum “The Globe”, which was, for a couple of years, my online hangout. Five or six (or maybe more, I’d have to think about it) of my online friends, including at least three FReepers, I met over there. I’m drawing a blank now as to his Globe user name (but why, it’s only been 15 years), but he used to be a real asset over there, has lived in China among other places, multilingual, interested in history including ancient history. Val, this is the guy I was being cryptic about, because of where he was living at the time.


50 posted on 03/03/2013 6:02:42 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: aruanan

Hard to tell what’s real and what isn’t, but a couple of days ago I posted the Dunham/Soetoro marriage certificate, they married in Hawaii in March, 1965.


51 posted on 03/03/2013 6:34:07 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: 0.E.O

Maybe he spent much of his off time there in the dark servicing other gays.


52 posted on 03/03/2013 9:02:52 PM PST by Huskerfan44 (Huskerfan44)
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To: Arthalion

Before I became a naturalized U.S. citizen in 1985, I had to read a brochure on the U.S. citizenship. What it stated was that it was fairly easy to lose one’s citizenship automatically if one was guilty of certain actions incompatible with loyalty to the U.S. My point is that it is possible to lose citizenship automatically. At least it used to be. Now, I am not saying anything about the status of children - I don’t know about that. But the loss of citizenship, in general, is not something that you have to apply for explicitly. The booklet made it very clear. It made it sound like my naturalized U.S. citizenship status was quite precarious. Of course, I can’t quote the specific language. It’s been too long. But this was precisely the impression I was left with.


53 posted on 03/03/2013 11:07:13 PM PST by Mimi3
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To: x

“Here’s the thing: why is a 30 year old name-address combination marked “Date Reported: 02/2010”? Do you really need anything else to call the whole story into question?”

Could it be that this is when the old paper information got computerized?


54 posted on 03/03/2013 11:24:24 PM PST by Mimi3
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To: Arthalion
There is not, and never has been, ANY mechanism under which a parent can renounce the citizenship of their child.

Maybe not during the 20th century, but the Supreme Court suggested it was possible in the Wong Kim Ark decision in 1898:

and neither he nor his parents acting for him ever renounced his allegiance to the United States ...

This same statement is in the decision twice:

that said Wong Kim Ark has not, either by himself or his parents acting [p705] for him, ever renounced his allegiance to the United States,
Even in the rare case of an American child adopted by foreign parents, where the birth certificate is updated to reflect the foreign parents, U.S. citizenship is maintained.

Except that the State Department can't guarantee the protection of U.S. citizenship when an adoption is in a country that doesn't recognize dual citizenship. But, we don't know that Obama even had U.S. citizenship prior to being adopted, thus there may have been no U.S. citizenship to maintain.

55 posted on 03/03/2013 11:26:46 PM PST by edge919
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To: highball

“Doesn’t work like that. Parents cannot renounce their children’s citizenship - only adults can do that for themselves, and even then only in limited circumstances.”

Maybe you don’t need to renounce it. You can just forfeit it automatically. Adults can forfeit their American citizenship automatically. Even natural-born citizen could forfeit their citizenship automatically if they became citizens of another country. The U.S. has since relaxed its dual-citizenship stance. But it used to be much stricter.

In other words, you are talking about “renouncing” the U.S. citizenship, and I am saying that renunciation is not the only way to lose your citizenship.


56 posted on 03/03/2013 11:29:35 PM PST by Mimi3
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To: Mimi3

The only other way to lose US citizenship is to have it taken away from you by committing expatriating acts. The US State Department is responsible for determining citizenship status. Whether a person formally renounces citizenship or has it taken away, there is a Certificate of Loss of Nationality issued, which is a public record.
http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_778.html


57 posted on 03/04/2013 12:33:01 AM PST by Nero Germanicus
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To: Mimi3
My point is that it is possible to lose citizenship automatically.

That's known as denaturalization and you can only lose it through taking deliberate acts. Some are the same kind of expatriating acts that would cost a natural born citizen their citizenship; holding office in a foreign government, serving as an officer or NCO in a foreign military. But a naturalized citizen can also lose their cit1zenship if they commit an act of treason, which a natural born citizen would not. They can also lose it if it is found that they lied during the naturalization process. But neither class of citizen can lose their citizenship through accident. They have to know what they're doing.

58 posted on 03/04/2013 5:02:05 AM PST by 0.E.O
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To: Mimi3
Even natural-born citizen could forfeit their citizenship automatically if they became citizens of another country

No they can't.

59 posted on 03/04/2013 5:02:16 AM PST by 0.E.O
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To: detective

>Because the government and the MSM are corrupt does not mean we should not tell the truth.<

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That’s not the point — I just want to deny Obama the merriment and pleasure of hi-5ing members of his administration every time that someone finds something significant in his murky past, as he knows full well that nothing will ever be done about it.

I want to deny him the delight of pumping his fist while saying to the American people: “Gotcha”.


60 posted on 03/04/2013 7:15:42 AM PST by 353FMG ( I refuse to specify whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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