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North Korea: What happens if Kim Jong-un acts on his threats?
Yahoo! News / The Christian Science Monitor ^ | March 29, 2013 | Anna Mulrine

Posted on 03/29/2013 6:07:51 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

In the event that the 'bellicose rhetoric' of North Korean leader Kim Jong-un turns into something more serious, the opening hours of conflict could be 'pretty ugly,' defense analysts warn.

Veteran North Korea watchers, citing what they see as increasingly troubling signs coming from the dictatorial regime, are voicing concerns that its new young leader, Kim Jong-un, could do something ill-advised, even start a war.

On Friday North Korea renewed what the U.S. has condemned as its “bellicose rhetoric,” saying Kim had ordered the nation’s missile forces to prepare to strike the United States and South Korea.

In response to the prospect of North Korea following through on this and other marginally less dire threats, Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said Thursday that the US military “will unequivocally defend, and [is] unequivocally committed to the alliance with, South Korea.”

But if hostilities were in fact to erupt, how might they play out?

Some former US Special Operations Forces and longtime Korea defense analysts have their own thoughts on what an “unequivocal” US military response could look like, including how US troops would be deployed in the event of a lethal first strike on US and allied military forces by North Korea – precisely the sort of move Mr. Kim has been threatening to make.

What would such a first North Korean move resemble? It might involve small-scale infiltrations using mini-submarines, assassination attempts.....

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: kim; kimjongun; korea; military; nkorea; northkorea; threats
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1 posted on 03/29/2013 6:07:51 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Need to read ‘One Second After’.


2 posted on 03/29/2013 6:08:39 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If he attacks, we no longer have a North Korea, just Korea.


3 posted on 03/29/2013 6:09:21 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (There is no requirement to show need in order to exercise your rights.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Either his threats are empty or he’s suicidally insane.


4 posted on 03/29/2013 6:10:20 PM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think Li’l Kim will bend over and light his fart, the backdraft will blow his mind.


5 posted on 03/29/2013 6:10:27 PM PDT by Autonomous User (Pain Fades. Chicks Dig Scars. Glory lasts forever.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Food Tasters will no longer be needed.


6 posted on 03/29/2013 6:10:43 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: Black Agnes

‘One Second After’

I tear up at those dam’ dogs.


7 posted on 03/29/2013 6:11:07 PM PDT by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sumpin like dis, only on land.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggH-ObiUWEE


8 posted on 03/29/2013 6:12:10 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama will run like he did at benghazi, the South will be overrun by the Chi-Coms, and The Japs will realize their on their own.


9 posted on 03/29/2013 6:13:05 PM PDT by swamprebel (a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Navy could take that bad haircut out from 200mi. If the Air Force comes in he loses the barber and the chef.


10 posted on 03/29/2013 6:13:14 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama surrenders, and our country is taken over by a communist.
Wait...


11 posted on 03/29/2013 6:13:37 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“North Korea: What happens if Kim Jong-un acts on his threats?”

Those who prepped have a chance of waiting out the panic buying, the shortages, and the violence.

Those who laughed at us are raped and killed.


12 posted on 03/29/2013 6:13:54 PM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: swamprebel

You guy’s predicting a response think Reagan or Bush were still CIC.


13 posted on 03/29/2013 6:13:59 PM PDT by swamprebel (a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He’s pretty clearly just saber-rattling. Hoping to get some attention. At least I hope so. A really bad thing would be if he’s done a political calculation that tells him that he can get away with something now, with an Obama administration that he might not otherwise get away with.

Would Obama balk at defending South Korea from a NorK adventure? The big problem is that this is a question at all.


14 posted on 03/29/2013 6:14:37 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: dynachrome

Yup.

IIRC it began about this time of year too.

Before spring planting had begun in earnest and after most of the previous years harvest had already been sold overseas, consumed or put in grain elevators in the midwest.


15 posted on 03/29/2013 6:14:46 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What happens if Kim Jong-un acts on his threats?

South Korea will have a new and huge parking lot for their Hyudai's, Kia's, and Daewoo's.

And North Koreans will finally get a good meal and a good night's rest!

Bomb them Gangnam style!!!

16 posted on 03/29/2013 6:14:55 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Get armed, practice in the use of your weapons, get physically fit, stay alert!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
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17 posted on 03/29/2013 6:15:11 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

18 posted on 03/29/2013 6:15:49 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You would think if the North were really planning a large scale attack they wouldn’t broadcast it with a long, drawn out temper tantrum. And they’d probably also wait till the US/South Korea military drills were long over. I guess maybe the regime is more unstable than people think, but it doesn’t seem likely that they’d march off to a war they can’t win with so much notice given.


19 posted on 03/29/2013 6:15:55 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s not our response that concerns me. No question we obliviate them. I am more concerned about their first shot.


20 posted on 03/29/2013 6:15:56 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care?)
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To: BobL

What about those of us too poor to prepare? Do we count in your calculations?


21 posted on 03/29/2013 6:17:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What happens if Kim Jong-un acts on his threats?

We go to war with a military that has been forced to cut depot maintenance, training, flying hours, procurement, modernization, and readiness since January. Oh, and not to mention retrograde of much needed equipment from Iraq and Afghanistan.

When I was in Korea just a few years ago, we were told that if war broke out, expect massive US, ROK, and civilian casualties in just the first hours of war.

And that is about it.

If we do go to war, here is what America's response will be:

We have become a bloated, dependent, bread and circus nation.

22 posted on 03/29/2013 6:17:43 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Can you plant a garden? I save seed with my neighbors gardens in mind. Just in case.


23 posted on 03/29/2013 6:18:51 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: umgud

The US certainly has the capability to turn what is left of NK to ash, that is without question, but how many people here really think the USA has a president willing to lead his people and do what needs to be done?


24 posted on 03/29/2013 6:18:58 PM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: swamprebel

That sounds very, very likely.

In the judgment, I suspect the talking-to Obama is going to get from a president he frequently invokes (Lincoln) will not at all be what he expected.


25 posted on 03/29/2013 6:19:35 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Longbow1969

Exactly. Jung Un will tell the masses that the US has stood down. Unfortunately for them he won’t have a damn thing to show for it.

Kind of a South Park “Canada on Strike” episode.


26 posted on 03/29/2013 6:20:15 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: Vermont Lt

If NK gets the first shot off at us, our DHS is itchin’ to use it’s billions of rounds of ammo on us to keep us calm.


27 posted on 03/29/2013 6:20:31 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: Vermont Lt

We hit them with a memory-altering charm from the Harry Potter series?


28 posted on 03/29/2013 6:20:34 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: longfellowsmuse
how many people here really think the USA has a president willing to lead his people and do what needs to be done?

Probably a rhetorical here on FR.

29 posted on 03/29/2013 6:20:41 PM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“What about those of us too poor to prepare? Do we count in your calculations?”

Did you “laugh at us”? I know you sure as heck didn’t. I also know, somehow, you’ll get through.


30 posted on 03/29/2013 6:21:00 PM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

*yawn* we have a large fly-swatter around here somewhere, don’t we?


31 posted on 03/29/2013 6:21:12 PM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: Black Agnes

Mobile home that we rent. I don’t think the landlords would approve, but I might ask.


32 posted on 03/29/2013 6:21:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Our first response to ANY aggression should be ‘shock and awe’


33 posted on 03/29/2013 6:22:06 PM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: longfellowsmuse

The US certainly has the capability to turn what is left of NK to ash, that is without question, but how many people here really think the USA has a president willing to lead his people and do what needs to be done?

no one from Obama Admin even bother to leave their vacations


34 posted on 03/29/2013 6:22:45 PM PDT by molson209
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To: Ramius

He’s a drunk with a double barreled shotgun and Tourette Syndrome.
Irritating and ignoreable except he’s gonna kill someone and get killed immediately after.
A true NK attack will turn Seoul to rubble, promptly followed by Pyongyang and the southern NK border. Total combat period about 4 hours.


35 posted on 03/29/2013 6:24:34 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (3% of the population perpetrates >50% of homicides...but gun control advocates blame metal boxes.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If any of the other mobile homes have plantings/shrubs around them, just be sure yours looks ‘landscaped’. Eggplants, peppers and Zucchinis are actually pretty plants if maintained. Tomatoes can be grown up a trellis and so can string beans. If they don’t allow it even if you ask nicely, you might still buy some seed (include cooler season seeds like cabbage, broad beans, and peas and if you find a deal, include some packs for neighbors too), put the packages into a couple of nested ziploc freezer bags and freeze them (allow to return to room temp before opening the bags). That way you’ll have an insurance plan. Just in case. If we’re all still here and posting later this summer I’ll send you some. No problem.


36 posted on 03/29/2013 6:26:13 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No time to think about it, I’m too busy fighting for gay marriage. You know, the most important issue known to humanity /sarc


37 posted on 03/29/2013 6:26:32 PM PDT by corlorde (forWARD of the state)
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To: Mr. K

I think we turned off long-distance calling features for the Norks and they must now use Skype.


38 posted on 03/29/2013 6:26:55 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When the chicoms think NK is a real danger, they will take action, and will probably cede NK to SK. There really is no other option better for the chicoms. They’d be much better off with a friendly Korea then they are now.


39 posted on 03/29/2013 6:29:53 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: eyedigress
If things really heat up, OhBusto, will make another trip to Israel or some other safe place, old Jumbled up Joe Biden, will be left in charge of the store.No telling what he will do probably bomb Australia.
40 posted on 03/29/2013 6:33:01 PM PDT by BooBoo1000 (Some times I wake up grumpy,,, other times I just let her sleep.)
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To: Olog-hai
Obama has demonstrated he will let people die, if it interfere’s with DNC fund raising with Jay-Z. The Azz Kissing Career Generals left after his purge can only be counted on to praise the “won”.
I think DC is underestimating, and I see Russia, Iran, and China backing the tantrum throwing lil’ Kim. This feel’s very different from past provacations.
41 posted on 03/29/2013 6:33:10 PM PDT by swamprebel (a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Isn’t this their usual MO when they want a refill on their humongous EBT card?


42 posted on 03/29/2013 6:34:22 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Fighting Obama without Boehner & McConnell is like going deer hunting without your accordion)
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To: BooBoo1000

Pull out his shotgun and kill the neighbors chimney.


43 posted on 03/29/2013 6:36:21 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: molson209

The only person that has ever used a nuke as an act of war was a democrat president.


44 posted on 03/29/2013 6:36:28 PM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: swamprebel

Russia, Iran and of course Red China are indeed backing the House of Kim. The old Second World is coming back, thanks to its agents being entrenched here.


45 posted on 03/29/2013 6:38:29 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: ctdonath2
He’s a drunk with a double barreled shotgun and Tourette Syndrome. Irritating and ignoreable except he’s gonna kill someone and get killed immediately after. A true NK attack will turn Seoul to rubble, promptly followed by Pyongyang and the southern NK border. Total combat period about 4 hours.

He's a drunk with a double barreled shotgun, Tourette's syndrome, and the biggest chemical stockpile in the hemisphere. In that 4 hours how much VX do you suppose he could unleash on the south? See... The problem with crazy people is that some of them really are dangerous.

46 posted on 03/29/2013 6:38:46 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I predict the Norks fire a missile aimed at California, which immediately strikes somewhere in Australia. We fire one nuke cruise missile into Pyongyang, ending the war.


47 posted on 03/29/2013 6:38:53 PM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
...Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said Thursday that the US military “will unequivocally defend, and [is] unequivocally committed to the alliance with, South Korea.”

OMG, we have Slo Joe Biden as Secretary of Defense.

48 posted on 03/29/2013 6:44:47 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
If he attacks, we no longer have a North Korea, just Korea.

Are you forgetting? One of America's worst enemies occupies the White House. North Korea is safe.
49 posted on 03/29/2013 6:47:50 PM PDT by Old Yeller
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To: BobL
Those who prepped have a chance of waiting out the panic buying, the shortages, and the violence.

Those who laughed at us are raped and killed.

This is why I say prepperism has no place here. It's nothing but a sicko revenge fantasy posing as practical "advice".

50 posted on 03/29/2013 6:48:15 PM PDT by Yardstick
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