Posted on 04/09/2013 3:34:10 PM PDT by Kartographer
· Amoxicillin 250mg AND 500mg (FISH-MOX, FISH-MOX FORTE)
· Ciprofloxacin 250mg and 500mg(FISH-FLOX, FISH-FLOX FORTE)
· Cephalexin 250mg and 500mg (FISH-FLEX, FISH-FLEX FORTE)
· Metronidazole 250mg (FISH-ZOLE)
· Doxycycline 100mg (BIRD-BIOTIC)
· Ampicillin 250mg and 500mg (FISH-CILLIN, FISH-CILLIN FORTE)
Clindamycin 300mg (FISH-CIN)
· Sulfamethoxazole 400mg/Trimethoprin 80mg (BIRD-SULFA)
(Excerpt) Read more at doomandbloom.net ...
Yes I just got some Cipro a couple of mos ago. We are stocking up our survival meds. Cipro and Amoxicillin are broad spectrum antibiotics which treat numerous infections.
How do you make yourself “sick enough” to run a test? And with what germ/virus? Just wondering...
Don’t forget that natural honey will provide a small amount of anti-bacterial when used as a topical.
Okay! There's about a 100 Canadian vendors selling this stuff!
You got a name or link to a legitimate one?
The binder in the tetracycline is what made it dangerous to use. I’ve read of a titration process which can be used to test dated drugs but don’t know how to do it.
Most medicines are perfectly fine back their expiration date. They will lose some of their potency as they age.
Cool and dark, like most edibles.
I was told that any antibiotic much past its expiration date would have little antibiotic effect and be hard on the liver and kidneys. I trust my source if you trust yours then go with that.
Honey needs to be qualified. Natural honey is extremely, frustratingly, unpredictable for the amount of antibiotics/anti-inflammatory agents it contains.
If you can get the good stuff, it is downright amazing, and has been described as superb for dental use, both reducing gum swelling and eliminating gum infections. However, finding it is 99% of the problem.
There are now some efforts to figure out what makes the good stuff good, but who knows how long it will take. Until then, it is just guesswork.
In the book "Patriots: Surviving the Coming Collapse" by James Wesley, Rawles one of the characters, a nurse, describes a field method of performing a rudimentary test on expired antibiotics.
Supposedly a questionable antibiotic can be tested for toxicity by dissolving it in a glass of clear water.
If the water remains clear the antibiotic is not toxic.
If the water becomes cloudy the antibiotic has gone bad.
I don't know how valid the test is but in an SHTF emergency with nothing but expired medicines available it could be tried as a last resort.
I believe there was also mention in the book of increasing the dosage with older medicines in an emergency situation because of the declining viability that you mentioned.
Agreed. I want the source so I can load up as well, eh.
Thanks, if it came down to an emergency I might take the chance. Good to know even a rudimentary test for toxicity.
You might find my post #29 interesting.
http://www.doomandbloom.net/2013/04/survival-antibiotics.html
Written by a doctor. Survivalblog.com also has numerous articles on it.
Chemicals don’t have a calendar, they don’t go bad one day past their expiration date.
Given a choice I’ll go to an MD and a pharmacy but that may not always be possible.
Thanks, that is where I read it but forgot the process.
Thats one reason I’ve stocked up on tubes of neosporin. It has the added benefit of not attracking flys and ants.
A few things.
1) Some doctors use a “trial and error” method for figuring out which is the best antibiotic for a particular problem. This starts by grading the antibiotics from longest in use with most resistance out there, like Penicillin, and if it works, great, and if it doesn’t, try the next one. Of course, unless a particular infection is of a type that is known to respond really well to a given antibiotic.
This is not a bad technique, really, for lesser infections, and saves up your really strong antibiotics for really bad infections.
2) If you are taking antibiotics under any circumstances these days, probiotics are essential, and should be used at alternate times to the antibiotics. This is an effective way to fend off deadly resistant bacteria blooms.
3) Anthrax infection only applies to skin infection, which has a 20% mortality that can be reduced to 1% with antibiotics. GI anthrax has a 25-60% mortality and requires hospitalization. Inhaled anthrax has an estimated 98% mortality with treatment, so don’t bother.
4) Oregano oil, while not a replacement for antibiotics, definitely augments their effects. It is also a very potent pain reliever.
Oh, yes they do! Sometimes in a very big way. If you trust your source go with it. The doctor I talked to is one of very few at his level and has spent years doing research on the properties of pharmaceuticals in the development of new ones. I trust him.
Re: TETRACYCLINE
I notice that Fish Cycline (tetracycline) is no longer available in capsule form from suppliers like Fish Mox Fish Flex.
http://www.fishmoxfishflex.com
They now offer it in powder form as premeasured packets or in bulk.
Does anyone have any experience or knowledge about using it in powder form?
Any insight would be helpful.
I will amend my previous reply. No, they don't go bad the day after the expiration date. Which is why I specifically said in my previous post to you "much past its expiration date."
Then go with his recommendation.
I can tell you if the choice is die from an infection or take some anti-biotics a month past their date the decision is easy.
My information comes from medical Doctors as well. There’s a reason they call their office a practice.
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