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How Many Freepers Are Planning To Do What I Am Going To Do? Refusing To Purchase Obamacare? (Vanity)
8/29/13 | OV

Posted on 08/29/2013 11:10:51 AM PDT by OneVike

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To: OneVike
Self pay, not insurance ping. Limbaugh says if you need a procedure, negotiate the hospital's "wish list" price down by self paying with cash. See this story: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324139404579017113415486176.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop He underwent his operation the very next day, with a total bill of just a little over $3,000, including doctor and hospital fees. He ended up saving $17,000 by not using insurance
61 posted on 08/29/2013 1:09:31 PM PDT by conservativeimage (I Won't Go Underground http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wema3CNqzvg)
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To: yldstrk

Yes, I have heard of them before, and I am planning to check into it.


62 posted on 08/29/2013 1:10:53 PM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: miserare

Now that is what will put an end to this whole communist takeover in a heartbeat.


63 posted on 08/29/2013 1:12:58 PM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

And, if you are underemployed it may he cheaper still to refuse to pay the Obamacare fines and sit out the worth of the fines in jail with three hots and a cot.

Potential activism for the newly graduated in this economy.


64 posted on 08/29/2013 1:13:37 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: KEVLAR

Good luck, with the vast majority of Americans uninformed, we will continue getting politicians like the ones we hjave now in GOP-E, who will refuse to scrap it.


65 posted on 08/29/2013 1:14:11 PM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: Hot Tabasco

That is pretty much what I am doing, and I am finding I can get away with paying a lot less than I thought.


66 posted on 08/29/2013 1:14:55 PM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: tbw2

You say there are 3 of them. Do you have any names I can look into?


67 posted on 08/29/2013 1:15:55 PM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: Rusty0604

I do believe we will be seeing many lawsuits going through the courty system before this is all said and done.


68 posted on 08/29/2013 1:16:57 PM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: conservativeimage.com

Yes, I remember Rush talking about this. I will mark the URL for the WSJ article you have for a later reading.


69 posted on 08/29/2013 1:18:31 PM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: Rodamala

My exact sentiments.


70 posted on 08/29/2013 1:19:12 PM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike

Hmmm.. If I understand this abominable law, it specifically gives the IRS the right to automatically CONFISCATE the FINE, or Tax; so sure, you might swear up and down that you won’t pay anything..but the IRS has AUTOMATIC access to ANY and EVERY bank account you and I have.

NO ONE will have a choice. EVERYONE will be REQUIRED to PAY the FINE or Tax..or get enrolled in their Unconstitutional system, and pay HUGE Premiums. The IRS will TAKE it regardless of what WE desire.

Either way..AMERICANS lose. The Democrats WIN, by confiscating (Legalised Theft) MORE of OUR money for THIER own purposes.


71 posted on 08/29/2013 1:24:53 PM PDT by Biblical Calvinist (Soli Deo Gloria !)
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To: OneVike

First learn how to find alternative cures from natural products. I have been self diagnose for years, and find the natural cures which work just as well or better than drugs, without side effects. Diet is a big part of that too.

It’s too soon for me to say since we are both on Medicare. I have a supplement policy with an “in house” insurance. I feel so bad for my young friend whose husband is a farm worker who earns $8 hr. and they have no insurance and can’t get medicaid because he works. She says they will be worse off with obamacare (they can’t afford), and they are thinking of just paying the fine and continue with no insurance. Sad.


72 posted on 08/29/2013 1:29:27 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: EBH

“ObamaCare” is what is being referred to as the “exchanges”. Any policy issued after March of 2010 is going to expire in 2014. For those like the OP who had insurance through their employer, who then loses said insurance - you are out of luck - and you WILL buy insurance through the exchanges. You have no choice (other than to NOT buy and get penalized...ooops... I mean “taxed” according to Chief Justice Roberts). Things get really interesting then.

There is the “private option”... but that really is a reference to policies that are grandfathered in - as in you first signed up before March 2010.


73 posted on 08/29/2013 1:31:41 PM PDT by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: Digger
Have any of you ever thought about leaving the country?

Why should anyone have to leave the country, except for Obama and the RAT slime who perpetrated this insanity upon us? We may have to go all 1776 on them, and soon.

74 posted on 08/29/2013 1:33:29 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: OneVike

In the march towards the actual goal of obamaumaocare— the govt. as singler payor and purveyor of care (and keeper of medical and personal details and... our rights)-— the elimination of private insurance companies is the first step.
This is done by... forcing citizens to buy insurance by mandate, and/or their employers. The premium rates that will ensue in either situation, because of required coverage under federal laws.. those rates will become astronomical.

Optioning for the “fine” also prevents the premiums from being paid to private insurers... who then will go out of business. Within 3 years there will only be a single payor, and our govt. thinks it can MAKE us accept that insurance in total and the absolute crap care that will result. Doctors, even new ones, are bailing. “Calling Dr. Bombay” or Chief Arulu.

Defunding the implementation is the only way to stop this.
RINOs want their corporate buddies to cost shift this final labor cost.. onto the public. Only , it will not work. It will impode.


75 posted on 08/29/2013 1:38:13 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Biblical Calvinist
...but the IRS has AUTOMATIC access to ANY and EVERY bank account you and I have.

After a few IRS offices and agents have serious "accidents", it may be hard for them to recruit enforcers.

76 posted on 08/29/2013 1:39:45 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: 11th_VA

Indeed there is nothing that says we must report the existence of coverage.. nothing with any teeth in it except the threat of seizure of accounts by a gestapo. How long does our geniuses in govt. think this will be allowed to go on?


77 posted on 08/29/2013 1:39:59 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: OneVike

My wife & I have BC/BS individual high deductible policies that BC informs us are grandfathered in.

I got a real bullsh1t brochure last week from BC, telling me all the great stuff I will now get, telling me I get to keep my current policy, telling me that all I had to do to keep it and these new wonderful benefits is to keep paying my premiums. Oops, no mention of how much higher the premiums will be in January when we renew. Methinks I will not be able to afford them. May as well pay those fascists their pound of flesh.

I refuse to drain what little I have in retirement savings to pay insurance premiums that the government is directly responsible for making unaffordable. I can say no more & still expect my comments to post.


78 posted on 08/29/2013 1:40:31 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: Biblical Calvinist

From what I have learned, the IRS can only take via the federal tax. So when I owe taxes, I pay what I owe, but not the fine. There is no mechanism for them to recoup the amount I refuse to pay on my own.

That is unless the health Director allows for a change in how they collect their fine. However, for now they can only get it via your tax return, not from the employer withholding.

At least not yet.


79 posted on 08/29/2013 1:43:19 PM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike
I'm figuring it will take about a month for some union thug who lost his insurance and is now part time to lose a loved one due to lack of insurance that he had before Obama. Such an individual will purchase a .50 cal Barrett and take out some ObamaCare official at 3000 feet.

After such attack, they will rethink the whole thing and privatize it. The union thug will have 2.5 million views on Youtube right behind ObamaPhone.

80 posted on 08/29/2013 1:43:28 PM PDT by chuckles
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