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To: Ronaldus Magnus

>>Lookit, chil’ren, there isn’t going to be a rollback on gay rights, period.

>There most assuredly will be a roll back of the homosexual movement. Already in many parts of Europe homosexuals are afraid to display themselves as homosexuals in public. The Muslim immigrants who have become so prevalent there tend to take a dim view of such theatrics. Now that Muslims are established there, it won’t be long until they have a plurality. The future belongs exclusively to those who have children and the Muslims do that particularly well. Given enough time the demographics will also change here in a similar way but perhaps with a different form of religious zealotry.

I don’t see your observation of a roll back due to Muslim intervention or any other “zealotry”. What you describe is a marginal phenomenon except perhaps lately in Russia. The so called “gay liberation” movement is emphatically NOT losing momentum in North America or Europe but continue to make inroads into mass media and education. As an FR reader you should know this from the many articles and threads on the subject, this one being not exceptional.

>>Get used to the integration of the poofter demographic into our daily affairs and try to make the cognitive leap to where we can communicate with them to the degree that we can influence them away from the more egregious expressions of their sexual orientation-i.e. pederasty, sado-masochism and blatant recruitment.

>They cannot abandon their core ideals and it is folly to think that there is anything we could compromise enough to get them to do so.

No one has to compromise anything. Homosexuality is not a core ideal, it is an engineered ideal created by sexual abuse and other childhood psychological cause factors, including very early ones. We can certainly start by understanding what those causes are and create a society with better parenting skills.

>>This is a tough one to swallow, to be sure, but that’s the way the cookie is crumbling in a technological society with more freedom than humans have ever experienced on the planet before.

>The sad pun in your mixed metaphor aside, authentic freedom is not at issue here for them. The homosexual movement is attacking real religious freedom by attempting to destroy the family.

The “sad pun” was unintended. I don’t spend a lot of time trying to make my posts into literary masterpieces. Clear your head and understand that modern technological society with massive lateral communication is the freest humans have ever been in all history, period. This freedom is what societies are coping with in an attempt to reset positive social behavior against a background of varying social conservatisms by definition. That what “society” is, a means of conserving positive normative behavior patterns, which have evolved through intense periods of zealotry and oppression. The root cause of Muslim intraction is precisely the effect of modernization upon a feudal tribalist cultural ethos.

>>Pray that it’s a phase, a reaction to the heavy handed suppression of homosexuality historically, not to mention a the undeniable quantity of “vigiliante” gay bashing that was carried out in the US, most likely not by men who voted Democrat, and that, with integration and a lessening of threat to gays, it will subside from being a live issue.

>>This isn’t a backlash, it’s a highly coordinated subversive movement that has long been aligned with the Communist Party and the Democrat Party.

Yes, but not to the degree you assume. And you’ll have to convince me that these commies are not the ones responsible for the sexual conservatism found presently in Russia, China and North Korea. The corrupting of ethics and morals in the West, which you correctly observe, is not the sole domain of Marxist influence. You will find it in Las Vegas, Wall St., New Orleans, Spring Break anywhere, porn markets anywhere with much of it an outgrowth of advertising. In case you haven’t noticed, “sex sells”.

>>There is a surprisingly large number of gay conservatives out there. Why not at least try to increase their numbers via diplomatic means?

>Even the Democrats know that attempting to win the votes of active homosexuals is a fool’s errand for Republicans. All that will be gained by compromising the conservative position is the loss of the Republican base. The homosexuals are no more likely to vote against the homosexual party as black people are likely to vote against a black president.

The “Republican base” is a chimera manipulated by Wall St. and oligarch power brokers to rubber stamp their invisible hand strategies. It’s entertaining to me to see Freepers coming into line with lefty observations about police brutality, Wall St. chicanery, intel community shennanigans, America as global policeman, big pharma, the benefits of natural foods/alternative medicine and the pathology of bullying.

Your Republican base is on the verge of a Tea Part vs. Rino schism that could torpedo the US doing what Australia and Norway just did. We need to get smarter faster, that’s all there is to it.


48 posted on 09/15/2013 4:46:18 PM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: Yollopoliuhqui
I don’t see your observation of a roll back due to Muslim intervention or any other “zealotry”. What you describe is a marginal phenomenon except perhaps lately in Russia.

Not at all. The Muslims are also attacking homosexuals and others throughout western Europe who offend their religious views. Entire neighborhoods in almost every major city are now considered off-limits to anyone considered non-traditional.

The so called “gay liberation” movement is emphatically NOT losing momentum in North America or Europe but continue to make inroads into mass media and education. As an FR reader you should know this from the many articles and threads on the subject, this one being not exceptional.

They have made some political headway, but the long-term demographics are completely against them.

The “sad pun” was unintended. I don’t spend a lot of time trying to make my posts into literary masterpieces.

This topic warrants care in the choice of one's words. Much of your writing here is very difficult to follow.

Clear your head and understand that modern technological society with massive lateral communication is the freest humans have ever been in all history, period. This freedom is what societies are coping with in an attempt to reset positive social behavior against a background of varying social conservatisms by definition.

Any human advance cuts both ways. The sweeping technological changes you speak of are irrelevant in the long-term to people who do not have children beyond replacement rate. Muslims don't teach "Timmy has Two Mommies" in the madrassas.

That what “society” is, a means of conserving positive normative behavior patterns, which have evolved through intense periods of zealotry and oppression.

You have a novel definition of society.

The root cause of Muslim intraction is precisely the effect of modernization upon a feudal tribalist cultural ethos.

That sounds like something taught in a large liberal-arts colleges.

Yes, but not to the degree you assume. And you’ll have to convince me that these commies are not the ones responsible for the sexual conservatism found presently in Russia, China and North Korea.

In my travels I haven't seen any of the conservatism you refer to.

The corrupting of ethics and morals in the West, which you correctly observe, is not the sole domain of Marxist influence. You will find it in Las Vegas, Wall St., New Orleans, Spring Break anywhere, porn markets anywhere with much of it an outgrowth of advertising. In case you haven’t noticed, “sex sells”.

That advertising maxim may or may not be true. The question here is the type and orientation. Homosexuality tends to be generally unpopular as most people recoil from it.

The “Republican base” is a chimera manipulated by Wall St. and oligarch power brokers to rubber stamp their invisible hand strategies. It’s entertaining to me to see Freepers coming into line with lefty observations about police brutality, Wall St. chicanery, intel community shennanigans, America as global policeman, big pharma, the benefits of natural foods/alternative medicine and the pathology of bullying.

Not following you there, but the Republican base was and remains socially conservative.

Your Republican base is on the verge of a Tea Part vs. Rino schism that could torpedo the US doing what Australia and Norway just did. We need to get smarter faster, that’s all there is to it.

I have no idea what you are talking about here. You and I seem to have some beliefs in common, but I do not share your pessimism and eagerness to appease, surrender, and attempt to assimilate the homosexual movement. Although the pendulum may have swung in their favor in recent decades, all future indicators are against them. Demographics is destiny, and the homosexual movement has no heirs.

It has been very difficult to understand your typing and the nature of the argument you are attempting to make. Proof reading your posts is a common courtesy. So, I'll leave it here and give you the last word.

49 posted on 09/15/2013 5:32:34 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus
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