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Carney denies people misled on keeping healthcare coverage
The Hill ^ | October 29, 2913 | Justin Sink

Posted on 10/29/2013 11:45:22 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

White House press secretary Jay Carney on Tuesday denied President Obama had misled the public when he said that consumers could keep their health insurance plans after the passage of the Affordable Care Act.

Carney said that consumers who "had a plan the day before the Affordable Care Act passed and signed into law" and who had not either dropped their coverage or "been thrown off the plan" by their insurance companies were "grandfathered in and can keep that plan."

"If you've kept it, you can keep it forever, as long as your insurer offers it," Carney said.

The controversy centers around a small but important segment of healthcare consumers who purchase health insurance on their own.

These consumers — usually about 5 percent of the American population — typically purchase year-long contracts with insurance companies for coverage.

But many of these plans do not satisfy basic requirements of the Affordable Care Act. Under ObamaCare, plans must offer certain "essential" benefits — like free preventive care — to qualify as acceptable.

Under the ACA, those non-qualifying plans could be "grandfathered in" — allowing subscribers to keep their exiting coverage at existing prices, even if they don't offer all the benefits mandated. But plans cannot be carried over if insurance companies have made substantial changes to key elements of the policy.

Insurers regularly alter benefits and co-pays from year to year, and thus many individuals with privately-purchased insurance won't be able to keep their same coverage after ObamaCare is implemented.

Because of that, insurance companies have begun sending out 90-day notices to their customers informing them that their policy will no longer be offered, and instead instructing them to purchase a new policy.

Republicans have seized on that as evidence that the president misled Americans when he said in 2009 that, “if you like your health plan, you will be able to keep your health plan."

On Monday, Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) said he had "heard from hundreds of my constituents who are seeing their premiums rise, they’re seeing their policies being canceled."

"Many, again, are losing their plans," Boehner continued.

But the White House has downplayed the significance of this turnover, noting that individuals rarely purchase the same plan for their own health insurance from year to year.

A study by Health Affairs cited by The Washington Post found that just 17 percent of individual market subscribers purchased the same policy for two or more years.

The administration also argues that those who must find a new plan will choose from a menu of options providing better coverage. Now, coverage for things like hospital visits and birth control will be provided. And, the White House says, federal subsidies will help reduce the price of that more extensive — and expensive — coverage.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Health/Medicine; Politics
KEYWORDS: carneylies; carneypresser; commanderindeceit; liars; lies; lyingcic; obama; obamabaitandswitch; obamacaredefrauds; obamacarelies; obamagovernsbydeceit; obamalies; richandpooraca; richandpoorobamacare; whocanaffordzerocare; youcankeepit
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1 posted on 10/29/2013 11:45:22 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Hey Jay Jay! Where the heck is my 2500 bucks!


2 posted on 10/29/2013 11:46:08 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Have you had your ObamaCare Marketplace shopping experience today?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

3 posted on 10/29/2013 11:46:29 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I didn’t expect him to admit it.


4 posted on 10/29/2013 11:47:42 AM PDT by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: Puppage

The TRUTH has left the building on this administration!


5 posted on 10/29/2013 11:48:22 AM PDT by jyro (French-like Democrats wave the white flag of surrender while we are winning)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Jay Carney lied.

President Obama lied.

The end.


6 posted on 10/29/2013 11:48:36 AM PDT by swpa_mom
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

7 posted on 10/29/2013 11:49:16 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Puppage; All
....."If you've kept it, you can keep it forever, as long as your insurer offers it," Carney said.

Obamacare sets the rules for insurance companies then tells us It's not Obama's fault insurance companies dropped them.

8 posted on 10/29/2013 11:50:53 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Servant of the Cross

Thank you.


9 posted on 10/29/2013 11:51:12 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Servant of the Cross

Obamacare ,Sopranos type middleman for you healthcare


10 posted on 10/29/2013 11:51:31 AM PDT by molson209 (Hillary Clinton)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“A study by Health Affairs cited by The Washington Post found that just 17 percent of individual market subscribers purchased the same policy for two or more years.”

The question is did the other 83% purchase a significantly different policy, like they have to do now.

My guess...no.


11 posted on 10/29/2013 11:51:55 AM PDT by Raebie (WS)
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To: jyro

It was never allowed to enter.


12 posted on 10/29/2013 11:52:37 AM PDT by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: swpa_mom
And Valerie Jarrett lies.

FACT: Nothing in #Obamacare forces people out of their health plans. No change is required unless insurance companies change existing plans. 7:07 PM - 28 Oct 2013

13 posted on 10/29/2013 11:53:08 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
No ... the president was very clear about that ........


14 posted on 10/29/2013 11:53:11 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: jyro
The TRUTH has left the building on this administration!

Sadly, it never made it to the driveway, let alone the building.

15 posted on 10/29/2013 11:53:40 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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16 posted on 10/29/2013 11:53:49 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

ya know how pigs like to roll in mud, dogs in poop, horses in dirt..

Carney, a good name for the times we face.

It,s a circus ..


17 posted on 10/29/2013 11:54:35 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It would be easier to post the number of people in the “most transparent administration ever” who aren’t lying.

That number is.........zero.


18 posted on 10/29/2013 11:55:14 AM PDT by swpa_mom
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
If anyone can pull off a whopper like this it'd be Jay Carney.

He worked for Time, for crying out loud.

19 posted on 10/29/2013 11:56:42 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Obama lies, people dies.


20 posted on 10/29/2013 11:58:16 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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