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Medicare is Seizing Estates of anyone over 55.
Michael Armstrong's blog ^ | November 13, 2013 | Glen Downs

Posted on 11/13/2013 3:31:42 PM PST by Vince Ferrer

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To: JRandomFreeper
“Wonder how that works with a traditional homestead.”

All a homestead does is give you a break on taxes, they are less if you homestead the place. It wouldn't have anything to do with Medicaid. If this guy is right, anything spent on you through Medicaid is repaid as much as possible by taking your house after you die.

This needs to be checked out to see if it is true. A person without insurance and no money to buy a plan because they are unable to work, could get coverage through Medicaid and that's a good deal but if his/her house is taken after he/she dies, that's really bad. If he/she doesn't care what happens to the house after death, okay, but if he/she does care, it's a problem.

I think search the Medicaid website to find out for sure or one could contact one’s US representative or Senator to let him/her find out. It think this is important enough, a Rep or Senator would want to know.

I know for sure the IRS can take money out of your bank account so it may be the IRS who would actually take ownership of the house. Lots of people are signing up for Medicaid so they need to know if this is true or not.

61 posted on 11/13/2013 5:36:14 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Vince Ferrer; All

If Obama’s Socialized Health Insurance Tax, (OSHIT), has little or no chance of financial success in 5 years, then why do Federal politicians in “both” political parties try to fix or replace instead of ABOLISH Obamacare?


62 posted on 11/13/2013 5:41:15 PM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Don’t affect anybody here. I can’t imagine a single conservative especially FRiends being on Medicaid as they would never allow themselves to have been so desperate to accept such a nonsense program. So in this case it is a “screw” on liberals and I say GOOD.


63 posted on 11/13/2013 5:44:19 PM PST by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: TigersEye

Another work-around in MN is, if there is a care person who lived with (I think lived with) and devoted at least 2 years of time caring for the elderly owners, the owners can deed the house/land to that care person with no liability to care costs, at all!!


64 posted on 11/13/2013 5:44:23 PM PST by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: Marcella
Actually, in Texas, there are some laws about homesteads and liens. I'm not up on all of them, but I know they are there.

/johnny

65 posted on 11/13/2013 5:48:07 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: napscoordinator
I certainly won't accept Medicaid.

Dying is still free.

/johnny

66 posted on 11/13/2013 5:49:08 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: SgtHooper

That would apply to me as well but I don’t think it was a necessary condition of the ownership workaround. Either would stand on its own.


67 posted on 11/13/2013 5:55:58 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: DManA

In California’s MediCal, which Is Medicaid, they are not allowed to have assets except a car. There are even some regs on the car. It is welfare and the whole reason for welfare is that you are poor, and poor people don’t have assets.
So........I have no clue what this guy is talking about unless he IS talking about Medicare.


68 posted on 11/13/2013 5:59:29 PM PST by sheana
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To: Marcella

I can tell you that my gf received news that she had a $5000 inheritance from a deceased grandmother, but before she could collect, she got a note from Social Services stating they would seizing the funds to cover a $145,000 lien for services rendered. There are very few
Pools of money left that the government has not got its hands on.


69 posted on 11/13/2013 6:02:26 PM PST by ez (Muslims do not play well with others.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

That is true. I don’t understand the desire to live forever. I think if you trust in God, you should not mind dying at all. So many people are so scared of dying even good Christians. It is amazing. Now I don’t want to check out tomorrow, but I do not want to be a veteran aged 107 being looked at during a Veterans Parade either.


70 posted on 11/13/2013 6:03:37 PM PST by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

That is state law, not federal law. In Texas, if you declare bankruptcy, and you own a house, that cannot be taken from you if you homesteaded it. This Medicaid thing is federal law which supersedes state law.

I have now read everything on this thread and it appears the feds will take a house if the person gets Medicaid since all that is given for free until the person dies, then the assets go to the govn. to help pay back what was spent on that person but if there is a spouse in the house, the feds wait until the spouse is gone. I didn’t know about this fact of Medicaid.

If one has no money, Medicaid is free until they get the money from the assets after the person dies. It doesn’t include Medicare as we pay for the insurance and the drug insurance and I have a supplement plan for which I also pay.


71 posted on 11/13/2013 6:03:47 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: LachlanMinnesota

Study Bump ! !


72 posted on 11/13/2013 6:08:22 PM PST by snooter55 (People may doubt what you say, but they will always believe what you do)
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To: napscoordinator
but I do not want to be a veteran aged 107 being looked at during a Veterans Parade either.

Depends on the girls in the parade. I remain, resolutely, and un-reconstructed, a red-blooded American male.

/johnny

73 posted on 11/13/2013 6:08:36 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: napscoordinator
“Don’t affect anybody here. I can’t imagine a single conservative especially FRiends being on Medicaid as they would never allow themselves to have been so desperate to accept such a nonsense program.”

There are some Freepers who are sick, can't work, some have cancer, and have little money and they would be eligible for Medicaid and I'm fairly sure some are on it. If that was the only way you could get medical care, you would do it. If you wouldn't, then you would just die. Maybe you would make that choice.

74 posted on 11/13/2013 6:10:29 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: sheana

California has approved Expanded Medicaid which requires no asset test.

In fact, many states removed the Medicaid asset test several years ago as did mine (Washington State).

I’d be surprised if California didn’t as well.


75 posted on 11/13/2013 6:10:32 PM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you Something wrong here wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Good point....lol.


76 posted on 11/13/2013 6:19:35 PM PST by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: Marcella
I'm fairly sure some are on it.

Absolutely, at least four have stated as much. Many others no doubt are on it or going on it but don't advertise the fact. Besides the circumstances you have outlined, one factor practically forcing people onto Medicaid is that the exchange subsidies are not available once your income drops below a certain level. Thus it is full-price, totally unaffordable health insurance or Medicaid. Not really a choice.

This D a i l y K O S thread has been posted here before on the subject of Medicaid estate recovery and is worth a read even if the source is objectionable:

Hold your nose and read it

77 posted on 11/13/2013 6:22:02 PM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you Something wrong here wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Back in 1989, I saw how expensive it was to have a nurse care for someone in a home, so I bought a Long Term Care insurance policy and still have it. It will pay for a nursing home for me to be there or it will pay for a nurse at my house. That policy is no longer issued but those of us who had it, still have it - I pay the premium every month.

The way this govn. medical care is going, I’m very glad I have that private insurance long term care policy.


78 posted on 11/13/2013 6:25:39 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Salgak

have already checked this out with two lawyers, living trust will not work.


79 posted on 11/13/2013 6:29:00 PM PST by Chickensoup (we didn't love freedom enough... Solzhenitsyn.)
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To: Southack

People over 64+ going onto Medicaid/Medicare shouldn’t be in jeopardy of having their homes seized to pay for their medical care.

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Medicaid has been seizing assets for thirty years in my state.


80 posted on 11/13/2013 6:30:13 PM PST by Chickensoup (we didn't love freedom enough... Solzhenitsyn.)
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