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Obama: 'I Don't Think We Need to Fundamentally Transform the Nation'
Breibart - Big Government ^ | 2-2-2014 | Wynton Hall

Posted on 02/03/2014 6:24:26 AM PST by Sir Napsalot

In an apparent reversal of his past campaign statements, President Barack Obama told Fox News's Bill O'Reilly in a Sunday interview that he does not believe in fundamentally transforming America.

O'Reilly read Obama a question from a viewer who asked, "Mr. President, why do you feel it is necessary to fundamentally transform the nation that has afforded you so much opportunity and success?"

"I don't think we need to fundamentally transform the nation," said Obama.

"But those are your words," explained O'Reilly.

"I think what we have to do is make sure that here in America, if you work hard, you can get ahead," said Obama.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


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KEYWORDS: obamainterview; oreillyinterview; superbowl; transformamerica
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To: Sir Napsalot

“I think what we have to do is make sure that here in America, if you work hard, you can get ahead,”

The King of Cliche.

Please explain in detail how DC elites plan to legislate this.


21 posted on 02/03/2014 7:00:44 AM PST by Awgie (truth is always stranger than fiction)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Wish all of us can laugh right now.

I loath that pos and what/who he stands for.


22 posted on 02/03/2014 7:13:18 AM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

And Harry Reid never said “this war is lost.” Progressives are nothing but a bunch of filthy liars.


23 posted on 02/03/2014 7:19:02 AM PST by Organic Panic
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To: Da Coyote

He IS a genius at tapping into the zeitgeist to get elected twice. He is an evil genius at convincing people he is something he is not. His genius allowed him to destroy the nation in broad daylight. His genius is on par with Mao, Hitler and Stalin.


24 posted on 02/03/2014 7:20:23 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Sir Napsalot

I would like to add my two cents here but not until I take delivery of my MRAP.


25 posted on 02/03/2014 7:48:50 AM PST by Rappini (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

You wrote:

“This falls under, “How do you know you’re winning?”

When your enemy knows he has no choice but to lie about the most basic difference you have with him. Because the people if not lied to will eat your political lunch. Now what we have to do is expose the lie and it’s easier because of the exposed lie on obamacare.


26 posted on 02/03/2014 8:04:05 AM PST by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear. -Glenn Beck)
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To: Sir Napsalot

He says the words people want to hear, then does the opposite. Too many don’t look past the rhetoric.


27 posted on 02/03/2014 8:11:30 AM PST by informavoracious (Open your eyes, people!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

The Qur’an encourages lying:

Muslim scholars teach that Muslims should generally be truthful to each other, unless the purpose of lying is to “smooth over differences.”

There are two forms of lying to non-believers that are permitted under certain circumstances, taqiyya and kitman. These circumstances are typically those that advance the cause Islam - in some cases by gaining the trust of non-believers in order to draw out their vulnerability and defeat them.

From The Qur’an:

Qur’an (16:106) - Establishes that there are circumstances that can “compel” a Muslim to tell a lie.

Qur’an (3:28) - This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to “guard themselves.”

Qur’an (9:3) - “...Allah and His Messenger are free from liability to the idolaters...” The dissolution of oaths with the pagans who remained at Mecca following its capture. They did nothing wrong, but were evicted anyway.

Qur’an (40:28) - A man is introduced as a believer, but one who must “hide his faith” among those who are not believers.

Qur’an (2:225) - “Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts” The context of this remark is marriage, which explains why Sharia allows spouses to lie to each other for the greater good.

Qur’an (66:2) - “Allah has already ordained for you, (O men), the dissolution of your oaths”

Qur’an (3:54) - “And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers.” The Arabic word used here for scheme (or plot) is makara, which literally means deceit. If Allah is deceitful toward unbelievers, then there is little basis for denying that Muslims are allowed to do the same. (See also 8:30 and 10:21)

Taken collectively these verses are interpreted to mean that there are circumstances when a Muslim may be “compelled” to deceive others for a greater purpose.

From the Hadith:

Bukhari (52:269) - “The Prophet said, ‘War is deceit.’” The context of this is thought to be the murder of Usayr ibn Zarim and his thirty unarmed men by Muhammad’s men after he “guaranteed” them safe passage (see Additional Notes below).

Bukhari (49:857) - “He who makes peace between the people by inventing good information or saying good things, is not a liar.” Lying is permitted when the end justifies the means.

Bukhari (84:64-65) - Speaking from a position of power at the time, Ali confirms that lying is permissible in order to deceive an “enemy.”

Muslim (32:6303) - “...he did not hear that exemption was granted in anything what the people speak as lie but in three cases: in battle, for bringing reconciliation amongst persons and the narration of the words of the husband to his wife, and the narration of the words of a wife to her husband (in a twisted form in order to bring reconciliation between them).”

Bukhari (50:369) - Recounts the murder of a poet, Ka’b bin al-Ashraf, at Muhammad’s insistence. The men who volunteered for the assassination used dishonesty to gain Ka’b’s trust, pretending that they had turned against Muhammad. This drew the victim out of his fortress, whereupon he was brutally slaughtered despite putting up a ferocious struggle for his life.

From Islamic Law:

Reliance of the Traveler (p. 746 - 8.2) - “Speaking is a means to achieve objectives. If a praiseworthy aim is attainable through both telling the truth and lying, it is unlawful to accomplish through lying because there is no need for it. When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible (N:i.e. when the purpose of lying is to circumvent someone who is preventing one from doing something permissible), and obligatory to lie if the goal is obligatory... it is religiously precautionary in all cases to employ words that give a misleading impression...

“One should compare the bad consequences entailed by lying to those entailed by telling the truth, and if the consequences of telling the truth are more damaging, one is entitled to lie.

Additional Notes:

Muslims are allowed to lie to unbelievers in order to defeat them. The two forms are:

Taqiyya - Saying something that isn’t true.

Kitman - Lying by omission. An example would be when Muslim apologists quote only a fragment of verse 5:32 (that if anyone kills “it shall be as if he had killed all mankind”) while neglecting to mention that the rest of the verse (and the next) mandate murder in undefined cases of “corruption” and “mischief.”

Though not called Taqiyya by name, Muhammad clearly used deception when he signed a 10-year treaty with the Meccans that allowed him access to their city while he secretly prepared his own forces for a takeover. The unsuspecting residents were conquered in easy fashion after he broke the treaty two years later, and some of the people in the city who had trusted him at his word were executed.

Another example of lying is when Muhammad used deception to trick his personal enemies into letting down their guard and exposing themselves to slaughter by pretending to seek peace. This happened in the case of Ka’b bin al-Ashraf (as previously noted) and again later against Usayr ibn Zarim, a surviving leader of the Banu Nadir tribe, which had been evicted from their home in Medina by the Muslims.

At the time, Usayr ibn Zarim was attempting to gather an armed force against the Muslims from among a tribe allied with the Quraish (against which Muhammad had already declared war). Muhammad’s “emissaries” went to ibn Zarim and persuaded him to leave his safe haven on the pretext of meeting with the prophet of Islam in Medina to discuss peace. Once vulnerable, the leader and his thirty companions were massacred by the Muslims with ease, belying the probability that they were mostly unarmed, having been given a guarantee of safe passage (Ibn Ishaq 981).

Such was the reputation of Muslims for lying and then killing that even those who “accepted Islam” did not feel entirely safe. The fate of the Jadhima is tragic evidence for this. When Muslim “missionaries” approached their tribe one of the members insisted that they would be slaughtered even though they had already “converted” to Islam to avoid just such a demise. However, the others were convinced that they could trust the Muslim leader’s promise that they would not be harmed if they simply offered no resistance. (After convincing the skeptic to lay down his arms, the unarmed men of the tribe were quickly tied up and beheaded - Ibn Ishaq 834 & 837).

Today’s Muslims often try to justify Muhammad’s murder of poets and others who criticized him at Medina by saying that they broke a treaty by their actions. Yet, these same apologists place little value on treaties broken by Muslims. From Muhammad to Saddam Hussein, promises made to non-Muslim are distinctly non-binding in the Muslim mindset.

Leaders in the Arab world routinely say one thing to English-speaking audiences and then something entirely different to their own people in Arabic. Yassir Arafat was famous for telling Western newspapers about his desire for peace with Israel, then turning right around and whipping Palestinians into a hateful and violent frenzy against Jews.

The 9/11 hijackers practiced deception by going into bars and drinking alcohol, thus throwing off potential suspicion that they were fundamentalists plotting jihad. This effort worked so well, in fact, that even weeks after 9/11, John Walsh, the host of a popular American television show, said that their bar trips were evidence of ‘hypocrisy.’

The transmission from Flight 93 records the hijackers telling their doomed passengers that there is “a bomb on board” but that everyone will “be safe” as long as “their demands are met.” Obviously none of these things were true, but these men, who were so intensely devoted to Islam that they were willing to “slay and be slain for the cause of Allah” (as the Qur’an puts it) saw nothing wrong with employing Taqiyya in order to facilitate their mission of mass murder.

The Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) insists that it “has not now or ever been involved with the Muslim Brotherhood, or supported any covert, illegal, or terrorist activity or organization.” In fact, it was created by the Muslim Brotherhood and has bankrolled Hamas. At least nine founders or board members of ISNA have been accused by prosecutors of supporting terrorism.

Prior to engineering several deadly terror plots, such as the Fort Hood massacre and the attempt to blow up a Detroit-bound airliner, American cleric Anwar al-Awlaki was regularly sought out by NPR, PBS and even government leaders to expound on the peaceful nature of Islam.

The near absence of Qur’anic verse and reliable Hadith that encourage truthfulness is somewhat surprising, given that many Muslims are convinced that their religion teaches honesty. In fact, it is because of this ingrained belief that many Muslims are quite honest. When lying is addressed in the Qur’an, it is nearly always in reference to the “lies against Allah” - referring to the Jews and Christians who rejected Muhammad’s claim to being a prophet.

Finally, the circumstances by which Muhammad allowed a believer to lie to a non-spouse are limited to those that either advance the cause of Islam or enable a Muslim to avoid harm to his well-being (and presumably that of other Muslims as well). Although this should be kept very much in mind when dealing with matters of global security, such as Iran’s nuclear intentions, it is not grounds for assuming that the Muslim one might personally encounter on the street or in the workplace is any less honest than anyone else.

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28 posted on 02/03/2014 8:14:03 AM PST by OESY
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To: Sir Napsalot

I wish Andrew was still alive cause breitbart’s site has lost it’s balls.

You cant transform this country with all your commie alinsky tries ya two legged colostomy bag barry.


29 posted on 02/03/2014 8:29:58 AM PST by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

The LIAR IN CHIEF IS LYING AGAIN!


30 posted on 02/03/2014 8:31:17 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

This guy just sings it as it comes to him....


31 posted on 02/03/2014 8:42:20 AM PST by Walkingfeather
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To: ecomcon

I loved Obama talking about how he benefited from a functioning public school system - He was in private school his entire life in Indonesia and Hawaii... What public school system did he attend?


32 posted on 02/03/2014 8:49:25 AM PST by mommab2003 (Stop these White House Chefs!!!)
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To: mommab2003
I loved Obama talking about how he benefited from a functioning public school system - He was in private school his entire life...

It kept the commoners away from him.

33 posted on 02/03/2014 8:56:31 AM PST by Albion Wilde (The less a man knows, the more certain he is that he knows it all.)
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To: Sir Napsalot
I thank obama for giving me strong reasons to research and study Yahweh Sabaoth, an unexpected, unanticipated and no doubt unintended blessing.

Having said that, I'm grateful that I'm not obama and I remind myself to pray for his correction and salvation, and ours.

Every single day obama gives me reasons to feel anything but love for that neighbor, showing me that I still have a lot of growth to do.

34 posted on 02/03/2014 9:08:09 AM PST by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: OESY

Thank you for the excellent - and sobering - summary....


35 posted on 02/03/2014 9:21:24 AM PST by Hetuck ("We will Barry you" - Nikita Khrushchev)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
When the righteous increase, the people rejoice, But when a wicked man rules, people groan. - Proverbs 29:2

As we all sigh a collective GROAN!

36 posted on 02/03/2014 9:29:34 AM PST by jda ("Righteousness exalts a nation . . .")
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To: OESY
Very good summary! In regard to the following:

The 9/11 hijackers practiced deception by going into bars and drinking alcohol, thus throwing off potential suspicion that they were fundamentalists plotting jihad. This effort worked so well, in fact, that even weeks after 9/11, John Walsh, the host of a popular American television show, said that their bar trips were evidence of 'hypocrisy'.

The King Fahd Causeway between Saudi Arabia and Bahrain is bumper-to-bumper traffic going to Bahrain on Thursday evenings (the beginning of their weekend) and back to Saudi Arabia on Saturday evenings (the end of their weekend) with Muslims from Saudi Arabia going to/from the more liberal Bahrain to drink and carouse with women who are not their wives. The 9/11 hijackers are not the only hypocrites.

I realize that all religions have their share of hypocrites, but looking at the Causeway, the way Muslims treat others, and the way they flaunt their fasting during Ramadan, I think they have more than their share.

37 posted on 02/03/2014 9:48:27 AM PST by jda ("Righteousness exalts a nation . . .")
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To: GBA

Your dry humor is world class!


38 posted on 02/03/2014 10:15:04 AM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: mommab2003

He’s using Michelle’s experience as his own.


39 posted on 02/03/2014 10:16:47 AM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Sir Napsalot
And outmatched and embarrassed by your kind words.
(Thanks!)
40 posted on 02/04/2014 8:47:35 AM PST by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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