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Shooting in the Military Circle Mall
The Virginian | 2/17/2014 | Moneyrunner

Posted on 02/18/2014 4:21:13 AM PST by moneyrunner

As a follow up to the shooting in the Military Circle Mall by a black mob, I ran across an essay by Daniel Greenfield (Sultan Knish) "Our state of Police" which analyzes the situation from an interesting perspective.

I'm disturbed about the increasing militarization of the police. It's a poor police force indeed that does hot have a SWAT Team and one or more mini-tanks and heavy weapons. But, as Greenfield points out, we're not living in a police state. Not yet.

But when the story about what's actually happening in places like the Military Circle Mall - which gets out via the grapevine or via news reports like WND despite the Virginian Pilot's attempts to keep the public in the dark - you want the police to intervene; to stop rampant thuggery by gangs of thugs.

And why is the lone cop not enough to prevent this? Here's the brutal truth:

In the United States, it's not the populations that drift in and out of jail who find the police terrifying, but those who don't. There is no police state for the former. The middle class citizen looks warily through the window of his home like the bars of a cage but when the cop car drives through a bad neighborhood, it's the police officers inside who feel like they are in a cage. The police state is about control and our state of police exists to control the areas that are becoming uncontrollable.

These gangs are not afraid of the police, the police are afraid of the gangs. And it's more than the fact that they are out numbered. The people who make up these gangs, and their parents, grandparents and friends represent a powerful political constituency and they have their own representative on city council who will quickly accuse the police of racism if they try to establish some rules.

What we have is a problem of failed societies, both at home and abroad. Some of these societies encompass entire countries while others are limited to a city or a neighborhood. In these places the social contract has broken down. The only thing that keeps the people living in them from killing each other is the threat of naked force, the vendetta and the lynch mob and honor and shame.

The welfare state created the gangs and the rest of the community responded by enabling the welfare state while also increasing the power of the police. Its a self-reinforcing cycle that will end, but we don't know where.


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: mobs; police; race

1 posted on 02/18/2014 4:21:14 AM PST by moneyrunner
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To: moneyrunner
I suggest that the Author watch the movie The Warriors.
2 posted on 02/18/2014 4:32:09 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: moneyrunner

We do have a police state....it’s still in a nascent level
of existence but it is real, it is growing and it is spreading. And yes....there are some areas where LEO do
fear to tread alone or in small numbers those areas are
well known, well demarcated and of only marginal political
clout. Yes the usual race baiters preen and prance whenever
something they don’t like happens there and such activity
gets the lions share of media attention because it’s good
for ratings. What happens far more often, is minimally reported if mentioned at all is the never ending abuse
heaped on the typical citizen going about his daily business who just happens to cross the path or catch the
eye of a sociopath pinned to a badge.


3 posted on 02/18/2014 4:43:01 AM PST by nvscanman
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To: moneyrunner

“These gangs are not afraid of the police, the police are afraid of the gangs. “

If the police are afraid of gangs they better be afraid of armed citizens ten fold if they try to confiscate their legally owned weapons.


4 posted on 02/18/2014 4:43:46 AM PST by Renegade
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To: moneyrunner

This is the first I heard of this. Kind of sad, for me, because when I was stationed on a couple ships homeported in Norfolk back in the early and mid 80’s, I used to go to Military Circle all the time. But it is also the same up in Maryland. The big mall in Waldorf is a dangerous place. A couple malls - like Landover and Iverson - used to be great places to go but the urban blight suffocated those places long ago. Springfield Mall in Virginia use to be a great place to go but is now crime ridden. The main sad part is it seems that all stories involving crime in malls always involve Holders people.


5 posted on 02/18/2014 5:25:34 AM PST by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: moneyrunner

An armed citizen with a gun can’t be trusted. (A lie denied by OUR Second Amendment, dammit!)

But send that very same citizen to a “Police Academy” for a few weeks and suddenly he (or she) is the ONLY ONE who can be trusted to carry deadly force on the streets. Really?

I trust my armed deer-hunting buddies one hell of a lot more than I do most police. I’ve never heard of a crew of deer hunters kicking down somebody’s door, shooting their dog and holding the family at gunpoint all for a search warrant that could have been easily served after a knock on the front door.


6 posted on 02/18/2014 5:29:41 AM PST by DNME (This is the government our Founders warned us about.)
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To: Renegade

“If the police are afraid of gangs they better be afraid of armed citizens ten fold if they try to confiscate their legally owned weapons.”

How very, very true.


7 posted on 02/18/2014 6:37:33 AM PST by The_Republic_Of_Maine
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To: moneyrunner

For myself the greatest fear of a Police State is not that the police won’t enforce the laws impartially and equally. It’s that the Police themselves will be taken over, either internally or through their ‘political masters’ by the very people who are inherently lawless through deed and inclination.

Once that is a ‘fait accompli’ then both the lawless as well as the police and their ‘political masters’ will view and justifiably so, that the ‘law abiding sheep’ are ready to be fleeced and sent to the stew pot.

The only way to stop that from happening is the hidden sheepdogs in the population that are prepared to come snarling out with blood and retribution in their hearts to do battle with the wolves that want to prey upon the ‘sheep’ aka law-abiding population.


8 posted on 02/18/2014 8:04:57 AM PST by The Working Man
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To: 7thson
The main sad part is it seems that all stories involving crime in malls always involve Holders people.

The main point of the article is that the identity of the perps is often hidden, or as in the case of the Virginian Pilot, the attack is not reported at all.

Regarding the cops; the gangs of "Holder Youths" are shooting at / attacking / and otherwise abusing the cops openly. When I was a kid, you didn't sass the cops, let alone shoot at them.

9 posted on 02/21/2014 4:16:34 AM PST by moneyrunner (I have not flattered its rank breath, nor bowed to its idolatries a patient knee.)
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To: The_Republic_Of_Maine; Renegade

“If the police are afraid of gangs they better be afraid of armed citizens ten fold if they try to confiscate their legally owned weapons.”
= = = = = = = = = = = =
You better believe ‘they’ know it and in the long run no one knows how the Military will react - in the long run......

And ‘we’ don’t hold a gun sideways and ‘waste’ half a clip when trying to squeeze off a round or two at a designated target.


10 posted on 02/21/2014 5:03:17 AM PST by xrmusn (6/98 --When you have them by the short hairs, the minds and hearts soon follow.)
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To: xrmusn

If you watch the civil wars going on world wide, you will notice two things, one the amount of destruction both to life and property, the second is how vastly out gunned the rebels are.

That is not the case in the US, first the rebels are numbered at around 3.5 million militia members, second they are as well armed as the military and many, if not most, have military training. Third the devastation, because of the weaponry, will be unbelievable.

We, in the Maine secession movement, have been involved in Maine State Militia since it’s inception in 1987, we have done studies on what Maine would look like after a rebellion or civil war. We are committed to a peaceful secession as allowed in Maine’s current Constitution.

In 1996 a study was done of what the US would look like after a war between the Militias of 36 states and the US govt and military. After six months, there would be literally no infrastructure left, the death toll would be around 25 million and the nation would be a literal waste land. Friend, the Militias are as well armed as the military, not with just small arms, but with heavy weapons as well. Not every piece of military equipment put in the broken or lost column is lost or broken, not every piece sent overseas ever gets overseas, Militias have been preparing for years, just in case.

Secession is the way to go.

Why the big push now? Simple, the Common Core Curriculum is going to so dumb down the kids in school that in another ten years, everyone under 35 will be so brain washed that they will be serfs and love it.


11 posted on 02/21/2014 6:40:23 AM PST by The_Republic_Of_Maine (Be kept informed, sign up at freemaine@hushmail.com)
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To: The_Republic_Of_Maine

The other big ‘problem’ is that if one is a dissenter, you virtually get labeled as being Paranoid.
BUT
The MSM isn’t reporting ALL the news.
Any White on Black crime is handled like the end of the world.
Any Black on White crime - for the most part - is brushed off and if possible the ‘victim’ gets blamed for being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

If you remember the Matthew Shepard ‘crime’ all kinds of BS against the ‘doers’ when it turns out that the ‘real reason’ was supposedly over drugs or a loan OR even possibly, they were ‘friends’ with the dude and he threatened to ‘out them’....
No excuse for doing him like that but it was put out there to seem as he was some innocent kid that these guys attacked for absolutely NO reason other than he was ‘different’.

Shortly thereafter a White guy and his Girl friend were set upon by a Feral mob, raped and tortured for several days and finally killed (I think) and it barely raised a stir with the excuse “It was a local matter”...I don’t disagree with that but WE just shrug our shoulders, walk away and do nothing....the Fence Post Hanging was just as much a ‘local thing’ etc.....

Believe when W was running a couple of White Yahoos tied some Black guy to the back of their pickup (ALL friends mind you) and dragged the guy to death.
The 2 white dudes were tried and convicted in record time, YET the PRESS tried to lay it all on Bush saying he shouldn’t be Prez cause he and Texans encouraged the dragging incident etc...

Like ‘they’ say, if and when ‘they’ come to take the weapons etc, they will get a lot and ‘we’ will probably lose quite a few ‘vols’ at the beginning BUT there are more of us and by that point WE will have the mindset ‘Death is better than 8 more years of this BS’ and the ‘takers’ will be getting cocky and just be worried about ‘getting home safe’ as that is Job 1.

Like the nice scenario which the French and Jedburghs carried out, one person with a single shot pistol can take out a sentry, road guard, some guy stopped to pee, etc then gain a weapon, do 3 times daily and in a week you have quite an arsenal started and you are ‘ready’ to take on the front squad and build from there.

There is and always has been a lot of talk inre “will US troops open on US Citizens”. Under the right circumstances probably at the start...I mean in WWII ‘WE’ had no problem going to Germany and ‘take them on’— and virtually the Germans had done NOTHING to the young lads fighting the battles and if from the Midwest and other select areas of the country, the lads may very well have been interacting with blood relatives.

The Japanese end of it was ‘easier’ NOT because they were a bunch of buck toothed, yellow ‘gooks’, but because the Japanese people had attacked and killed American people which gave the war a ‘purpose’....

When Britain was having its IRA problems if they had asked for our help surely it would have been in the form of monetary or us possibly ‘relieving’ the Brits in another part of the World so as their troops could go home and fight.
Don’t really think you could have gotten a whole lot of Americans to ‘invade’ or even go hand to hand with the Irish citizens if for no other reason than ‘relative’.

It will be interesting.


12 posted on 02/21/2014 10:03:25 AM PST by xrmusn (6/98 --When you have them by the short hairs, the minds and hearts soon follow.)
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