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All he cared about was saving the union and he said he didn’t care about slavery.The union was his goal at the expense of states rights.

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>> The union was his goal at the expense of states rights.

Thank you for that. Succinct, and important.

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All he cared about was saving the union and he said he didn’t care about slavery.The union was his goal at the expense of states rights.

Except that slavery was demonstrably on the way out because of the industrial revolution, and they all knew it at the time. Northern States were criminalizing slavery because the slave owners needed and escape mechanism so they could industrialize and not go bankrupts having to take care of all their slaves.

Which means, of course, that if this process was left to its natural conclusion, the States rights issue would have never arisen, or at least would never been able to use slavery as a flashpoint into Civil War. So there would have been no union to have to preserve, because it would never have been threatened.

No, I believe TPTB needed the Civil War to justify passing the 14th Amendment (which they still couldn't pass, so they faked it). And in the name of freeing the slaves, the FedGov declared everyone a slave.

And that's not mere hyperbole. Changing rights to privileges is the legal definition of changing freedom to slavery.

Lincoln made all this happen. He was a bastard, because he knew WHY he was doing what he was doing the whole time.

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“I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races – that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything.”

~Abraham Lincoln, Fourth Debate with Stephen A. Douglas at Charleston, Illinois, September 18, 1858

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All he cared about was saving the union and he said he didn’t care about slavery.

It is true he placed saving the Union as his first priority, but it is totally untrue that he didn't care about slavery. He hated slavery and always had.

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“saving the union “

Saving the railroads, really. They need the union together to make money and Lincoln was their attorney.