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US to release Pollard in exchange for 'talks' continuing (hostage negotiations)
Israel Matzav ^ | 3/23/14 | Carl In Jerusalem

Posted on 03/23/2014 11:20:40 AM PDT by Nachum

If any of you had any doubt that Jonathan Pollard is anything other than a hostage being held by the United States, this should dispel them: The US is reportedly considering releasing Pollard as an incentive for Israel to go through with the release of 'Israeli Arab' terrorists at the end of this week in order to keep the 'peace talks' going.

The talks, which began last summer, were supposed to have concluded at the beginning of April with a framework for negotiations, to be written by Secretary of State John Kerry. But PA chief Mahmoud Abbas has made it clear numerous times that he will not concede on the Palestinian's “core” demands – an Israeli withdrawal from all of Judea, Samaria, and much of Jerusalem; free immigration of the descendants of Arabs who fled Israel in 1948 into Israel; and no recognition of Israel as a Jewish state.

Under such conditions, Netanyahu has told diplomats, there is no way he could get an agreement with the PA approved by his government.

The US, therefore, is considering various “creative” ideas to make the deal more appealing, the report said. Among them is an idea Netanyahu himself proposed – releasing Jonathan Pollard, who has been in an American prison for nearly three decades on charges of spying for Israel. The diplomats said that it was not clear Obama would agree to such a condition.

Actually, this report doesn't even mention the possibility of 'Israeli Arabs' being among the terrorists released. It just says that Israel doesn't want to go through with the fourth terrorist release at all. Hmmm....


TOPICS: Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: israel; jonathanpollard; pollard; talks
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To: Nachum

If there was any good reason to release Pollard, this is the worst.

Appease Israel into appeasing arabs, talk about lose lose dialogue for a couple.

Only Obamabot communists would come up with a farcical language and acceptable reason for our suicide.


21 posted on 03/23/2014 8:00:52 PM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: oldbill

shooting seems a little harsh


22 posted on 03/23/2014 10:54:35 PM PDT by poptartacus
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To: poptartacus

“shooting seems a little harsh”

OK, how about “seriously, painfully, wounding”


23 posted on 03/24/2014 11:18:01 AM PDT by oldbill
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Thank you for the explanation and heads-up. You clearly know more about this than I do. Hell, I have no idea what a klystron is.

However, when one considers that Bill Clinton permitted the give-away of missile tech to the ChiComs without spending so much as one hour in prison, it makes whatever Pollard did begin to assume less than mythical proportions.

Okay: I will say it: The CIA, etc, is riddled with anti-Semitism. I find some Jews loathsome, to be sure, but i certainly do not hate Jews in general, no do I hate Israel. Our spooks seem to be eaten up with hatred for Jews and Israel. (Probably makes them stupid, too.)

i may be wrong, but... somehow I doubt it. ;-)


24 posted on 03/24/2014 8:22:01 PM PDT by man_in_tx (Blowback (Faithfully farting towards Mecca five times daily).)
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To: man_in_tx

Klystrons are essential to nuclear weapons. They are the timer which sends electrical charges to the explosives that combine the nuclear material creating a critical mass. The more accurate the timer, the less nuclear material you need and the smaller you can make the bomb, and the missile that carries it.

Even the Soviet Union could never master creating high grade klystrons, so their nuclear weapons and missiles were perhaps twice the size of ours, and used a lot more nuclear material, yet on a per unit basis produced far less yield. Their gigantic Tsar bomba and others got around this by using a lot of nuclear material.

In any event, in perhaps one of the most brilliant intelligence operation of the 20th Century, Israel sent a team of top notch operatives to the US, who hacked our nuclear logistics computer system, and redirected some 200 high grade klystrons to the east coast, where they were put on board an Israeli aircraft and flown to Israel. Since they had everything else they needed, this meant that overnight they had 200 nuclear missiles for their Jericho missile installation.

As a final note about Pollard, consider the case of the Israeli Mordechai Vanunu, who was kidnapped from Italy, and spent 18 years in prison, is frequently rearrested, and cannot ever leave Israel. Just for talking about their nuclear program.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mordechai_Vanunu


25 posted on 03/25/2014 7:33:44 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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To: man_in_tx

Pollard should dance at the end of a rope (with Hansen and Ames dancing by his side). Slick Willie belongs in prison, so does his beastly wife. That the execrable clintons are not in prison doesn’t excuse releasing Pollard.


26 posted on 03/25/2014 7:36:47 AM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: NorthMountain

Pollard should dance at the end of a rope (with Hansen and Ames dancing by his side). Slick Willie belongs in prison, so does his beastly wife. That the execrable clintons are not in prison doesn’t excuse releasing Pollard.

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While i disagree with your view of what Pollard deserves, I will gladly credit you for being at least somewhat consistent, by consigning the same putative penalty to Hansen and Ames.

Judging from some comments I have seen in this forum from time to time, some Pollard haters seem to be strangely obsessed only with him (probably, i am guessing, because he is a Joooo).


27 posted on 03/30/2014 11:30:33 AM PDT by man_in_tx (Blowback (Faithfully farting towards Mecca five times daily).)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Thank you for the tutorial on klystrons, as well as the Israeli gambit to grab some of ours (something of which I have never previously heard).

Also, thank you for the account of the fate of Mordechai Vanunu. Interesting, indeed.


28 posted on 03/30/2014 11:34:16 AM PDT by man_in_tx (Blowback (Faithfully farting towards Mecca five times daily).)
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To: man_in_tx
(probably, i am guessing, because he is a Joooo).

The foul pollard is the only one of the three that has a fan-club clamoring for his release. But go ahead ... play the race card. It serves only to further discredit the pollard fan club.

29 posted on 03/30/2014 1:11:39 PM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: NorthMountain

The foul pollard is the only one of the three that has a fan-club clamoring for his release. But go ahead ... play the race card. It serves only to further discredit the pollard fan club.

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You give yourself away: Who ever calls Hansen, Ames, Benedict Arnold, etc, “Foul?”

But you appear to call Pollard that on a knee-jerk reaction.

Of course, i could be incorrect, but, from where I sit, it does appear that you have been outed — card, or no card on my part.


30 posted on 03/30/2014 9:50:18 PM PDT by man_in_tx (Blowback (Faithfully farting towards Mecca five times daily).)
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To: NorthMountain
But go ahead ... play the race card. It serves only to further discredit the pollard fan club.

What "RACE" might that be?
31 posted on 03/30/2014 10:27:41 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: man_in_tx
You give yourself away

This isn't about me. Try to refrain from personal attacks. They discredit whatever point you're trying to make.

Now, to the actual point: pollard gets press, because for some strange reason pollard has a fan-club clamoring for his release. Ames, hansen, et al. do not. Arnold, of course, is long since dead. So it seems to me that the obsessed ones are the members of the pollard fan club. I'm unclear on the basis for their obsession; nothing I have seen from them remotely justifies pollard's crimes. The pollard fan club can pound sand.

32 posted on 03/31/2014 4:23:01 AM PDT by NorthMountain
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