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Quote of the Day (Open Carry)
Flopping Aces ^ | 05-08-14 | Wordsmith

Posted on 05/08/2014 8:48:17 AM PDT by Starman417

Open-Carry-SA

"Moms Demand Action continues to give a very emotional response
to open carry. Hillary Rand's basic argument is, 'My kids shouldn't have to look
at a gun,' which is based only on emotion. I don't want to look at Hillary Rand, but I'm
not going to force her out of the public eye."

- CJ, battling over open-carry in Texas
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Alice Tripp of the Texas State Rifle Association was the first person to testify at a hearing about open-carry in Austin on April 7. She said that Texas is one of only five states that outright bans the open carry of handguns.

"It doesn't make a whole lot of sense," Tripp told Breitbart Texas. "45 other states are either silent in their law or completely allow open-carry... Texas would like to have a contemporary law that allows people, with a state-issued license, to have the option of not keep their handgun concealed... There are currently about 760,000 people in Texas with concealed handgun licenses. We've tracked the data and found that these individuals are actually 15 times less likely to commit a crime than Texans of the same age. You don't get a license to become a criminal."

She also mentioned that allowing citizens to open-carry with the appropriate permit would not necessarily cause an influx of gun owners.

"I don't expect there to be a significant increase of open-carry folks. It's not like all of a sudden everyone has a holster that matches their shoes," Tripp said.

C.J. Grisham, President of Open Carry Texas, has also expressed strong support for open-carry policies since the incident at Fort Hood.

Grisham told Breitbart Texas, "If open-carry is such a problem, why are we one of only five states that don't allow it? Open-carry is so important to state security and is not responsible for open crime. It is actually responsible for a decrease in crime. When a criminal sees a gun, it deters them from committing a crime."

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TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: 2nd; banglist; constitution; opencarry; texas

1 posted on 05/08/2014 8:48:17 AM PDT by Starman417
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To: Starman417

I’d rather see concealed-carry without a permit, but I do think all states should have open-carry.


2 posted on 05/08/2014 8:57:01 AM PDT by redhawk.44mag
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To: Starman417; waterhill; ixtl; Windflier

Thanks for posting this! Banglist/Texas (((ping)))!


3 posted on 05/08/2014 9:19:35 AM PDT by Envisioning (It's the Jihad, stupid......)
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To: Starman417

It’s already been shown that “Mom’s demand Action” is a complete astro turf political tool. Nothing about it is “grass roots”. These women are being exposed on social media for the commie shills they are meanwhile dumbass soccer mom’s are falling for it all over the country.
These political tools will be the first to go if the nation we’re ever disarmed and they are too stupid to realize it or study history.


4 posted on 05/08/2014 9:24:41 AM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: redhawk.44mag
but I do think all states should have open-carry.

Surely that's the bottom line of the right to bear arms.
5 posted on 05/08/2014 9:31:34 AM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: andyk

That’s the way I see it.


6 posted on 05/08/2014 9:40:37 AM PDT by redhawk.44mag
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To: Starman417
I believe in carrying my firearm the way they were meant to be carried  photo John-Wayne_zpsaaaae0eb.jpg
7 posted on 05/08/2014 9:46:23 AM PDT by BobinIL
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To: Starman417

Open carry should be legal in every state. It’s mainly for folks in rural areas, sometimes isolated targets for criminals or animal predators. Addicts and other incompetents could be disarmed soon enough. It’s doubtful, that it would lead to downtown Dallas bristling with firearms.


8 posted on 05/08/2014 10:52:58 AM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: familyop

All you knuckleheads downthread with your usual moronic parroting of the “tactical risks” of open carry need to understand what this is about. This is not an issue of strapping on yore sixgun and swaggering into the local saloon. This is about a CHL holder bending down to pick up a can of peas at the local grocery store in Austin, Houston, Dallas (or some smaller pocket of Demorat control) and having some bedwetting hoplophobe run to the next aisle and call 911 to report a “gun carrying maniac about to kill us all”.

The way the law stands, that CHL holder, if he is lucky enough not to be riddled with gunfire by the responding JBTs, will almost certainly lose his CHL. He might even wind up doing hard time for it. The point to open carry in Texas is so a concealed firearm accidentally displayed doesn’t ruin a CHL holder’s life.

You may now resume your chest pounding proclamations of “I’d never carry right out in the open cause that might let some varmint get the drop on me”.


9 posted on 05/08/2014 11:10:47 AM PDT by Zippo44 (Liberal: another word for poltroon.)
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To: Zippo44
They have already addressed this back in September.

Senate Bill 299 Effective: Sept. 1, 2013 Relating to the intentional display of a handgun by a person licensed to carry a concealed handgun. This bill amends the Texas Penal Code by changing the language from “fail to conceal” to “unintentional display.”

I forget the actual wording but it is no longer a Class A misdemeanor or result in loss of license.

Actually, I would like the option to 'open carry', not that I would most of the time.

10 posted on 05/08/2014 11:21:28 AM PDT by Envisioning (It's the Jihad, stupid......)
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To: Zippo44

But I promoted legalizing open carry, without permits. The 2nd Amendment doesn’t require a “CHL.”


11 posted on 05/08/2014 11:24:48 AM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Zippo44

There should be no law requiring permits for concealed carry, either. On the “tactical” consideration, if it shows, wear an ankle holster. When or where you don’t need it, don’t carry it.


12 posted on 05/08/2014 11:29:29 AM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Envisioning

Were it legal, I would likely open carry simply because it is easier. My standard attire is cargo pants and a tucked in polo. I almost never wear an untucked shirt, so a level III retention holster and a 4” .357 makes more sense and would be quite comfortable. Wearing a jacket is impractical for about 350 days a year here in Houston, so constitutional carry would be nice. I just do not expect it to be allowed in my lifetime due to the number of thumbsuckers in the state legislature.


13 posted on 05/08/2014 11:36:49 AM PDT by Zippo44 (Liberal: another word for poltroon.)
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To: Zippo44
Agreed, IWB in the Texas summer sucks. I have had the heat rashes to prove it! LOL!

Another thing, there are a number of restaurants here in Fort Worth frequented by detectives that open carry with/without a visible badge and it does not seem to create a panic. Makes ME feel safer eating there, not the opposite. Actually, I don't think most of the people really pay that much attention. It is only an issue when the media hypes it....

14 posted on 05/08/2014 11:52:18 AM PDT by Envisioning (It's the Jihad, stupid......)
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To: familyop

lol


15 posted on 05/08/2014 1:26:48 PM PDT by waterhill (I Shall Remain, in spite of __________.)
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To: Envisioning

Thanks for the ping!


16 posted on 05/08/2014 5:49:44 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Starman417
Hillary Rand's basic argument is, 'My kids shouldn't have to look at a gun,'

Unless pansy liberal sheeplehood is hereditary, her kids probably LIKE looking at guns. Course, that may be why she doesn't want them to.

17 posted on 05/08/2014 9:44:58 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Starman417
"It doesn't make a whole lot of sense," Tripp told Breitbart Texas. "45 other states are either silent in their law or completely allow open-carry... Texas would like to have a contemporary law that allows people, with a state-issued license, to have the option of not keep their handgun concealed.

Why puss out? The default has been that open carry was MORE legal and that it was CONCEALED carry that needed to be licensed, so why not go to that standard as a "reasonable first step" as the anti-rights crowd would say, while still working toward Constitutional carry?

"I don't expect there to be a significant increase of open-carry folks. It's not like all of a sudden everyone has a holster that matches their shoes," Tripp said.

It's the limitation of rights you have to justify on the merits, not respecting them.

18 posted on 05/08/2014 9:50:26 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Zippo44
This is not an issue of strapping on yore sixgun and swaggering into the local saloon.

A guy in Mississippi did just that a few nights back. He was politely served a few beers, carried on chatting with his friends and then left. There were no stares, gasps or anything else. Not a word was said about it. It was no big deal to anyone there.

19 posted on 05/09/2014 11:30:18 AM PDT by houeto (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate)
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