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Why Christians Might Want To Abstain From Reciting “The Pledge Of Allegiance”
Formerly Fundie ^ | 05/20/2014 | Benjamin L. Corey

Posted on 05/23/2014 2:19:59 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind
“I don’t have a problem saying the Pledge of Allegiance, but I agree– if I have to choose to be loyal to God or country, I’ll always choose God”.


This is America. There is no conflict there. I pledged my Allegiance to a Republic who highest law is the constitution. I suspect only laws or leaders violating the Constitution are going to conflict God's Word. The pledge is no blind pledge to serve an earthly kingdom.
21 posted on 05/23/2014 3:05:05 PM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: SeekAndFind
Our allegiance should be pledged to the ways of Jesus

America is where I can live my beliefs in Jesus without fear of harm or retaliation.

America's Declaration of Independence recognized that our rights came from our creator and not from government.

America’s Declaration of Independence stated that securing our rights is the reason to institute a government.

America's Constitution instituted a government tasked with protecting our rights.

America's Constitution forbids the government from interfering with our rights.

What better place on Earth to live for Jesus than America and what better way to say thanks than to salute America’s flag. Long may she wave.

22 posted on 05/23/2014 3:16:57 PM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, trust few, and always paddle your own canoe.)
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23 posted on 05/23/2014 3:19:06 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: SeekAndFind

Opinions like this are by nature attacking the patriotism that we so badly need to survive as a country.


24 posted on 05/23/2014 3:22:31 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Kartographer

Strange, just recently this very topic came up where I was told, in an incredibly condescending, self-righteous manner, my God was the state. A fellow Christian accused me of being a worshiper of the “Golden Calf” for my patriotism and allegiance to the United States of America. The discussion turned very nasty. I was not very kind and Christian-like in my defense.


25 posted on 05/23/2014 3:41:05 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood.)
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To: SeekAndFind
This guy is way behind. In 1943 the Supreme Court decided West Virginia v. Barnette, which held Jehovah's Witnesses could not be compelled to recite the Pledge on First Amendment grounds.

With respect to the Jehovah's Witnesses, I'm not aware of any mainstream Christian denomination that teaches not to recite the Pledge.

26 posted on 05/23/2014 3:41:52 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker

If I recall correctly, Jehovah’s Witnesses also do not vote,hold public office,join any military organization,accept others’ blood in transfusion or accept organ transplants,etc.

If the phrase “under God” is operable, then the pledge to the American flag and Republic is null and void should the republic cease to obey God’s laws.


27 posted on 05/23/2014 3:52:00 PM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: SeekAndFind
At least we don't use the original salute.


28 posted on 05/23/2014 3:52:36 PM PDT by freerepublicchat
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To: Jagdgewehr; Biggirl; Nifster

I ask one guy who felt this way if he had renounced his American citizenship and announce his allegiance placing himself back under the rule of the court of St. James as an act of repentance. He never would answer me.


29 posted on 05/23/2014 4:01:03 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: SeekAndFind

You finally caught up to the Jehovah Witnesses...

As I see it, God created the United States to be the beacon to the world as far as the freedom to worship God and the result has been that the U.S. has spawned more missionaries and more bibles than the rest of the world combined...

I believe that’s worth taking a stand for...

Pledging allegiance to God and pledging allegiance to the FLAG are apples and oranges...It will never come to one or the other for the Christian...

That may however become an issue for a Catholic...


30 posted on 05/23/2014 4:09:28 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: hoosierham

Yes, the Witnesses go the whole nine yards with their beliefs. They are the opposite of the anti-religion crowd that wants to strip “under God” out of the Pledge.


31 posted on 05/23/2014 4:11:58 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: hoosierham
If the phrase “under God” is operable, then the pledge to the American flag and Republic is null and void should the republic cease to obey God’s laws.

Exactly...The gov't is becoming less and less 'under God' but when the Constitution becomes null and void, then my allegiance will do the same...

32 posted on 05/23/2014 4:15:41 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: MosesKnows

RE: America is where I can live my beliefs in Jesus without fear of harm or retaliation.

Not when you obey and believe His teachings about marriage, by which you either lose your job, or are fined.


33 posted on 05/23/2014 4:36:10 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The pledge of allegiance to the Federal Government is Yankee propaganda against state rights and individual rights.


34 posted on 05/23/2014 5:00:56 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant
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To: SeekAndFind

“One Nation, Under God...”

No problem. ..


35 posted on 05/23/2014 5:09:12 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: SeekAndFind
You don't study the Bible, do you? Romans, chapter 13, specifically addresses the responsibilities of a Christian toward all governments.

As for your statement that Jesus's statement, "But I tell you, do not swear an oath at all,” you have taken the statement clearly out of its context. Jesus is speaking to those would say, "I swear this is truth by all of Heaven's glory," or some such wording that vows truthfulness because God knows its true. In the next words, Jesus then says, "Heaven is God's throne." Can you see that it means that no earthly being can hold God's sovereignty in his own human hands. Jesus is essentially saying, "You don't have the authority or power to hold God to your standard of truth."
36 posted on 05/23/2014 5:13:18 PM PDT by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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You don't study the Bible, do you?

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Imho, studying the Bible is a life-long occupation.

37 posted on 05/23/2014 5:15:44 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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Lighten up, Francis.

I pledge allegiance, to the flag, of the United States of America...

Old Glory (a song for Michael) by 10 Pound Test

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

38 posted on 05/23/2014 6:09:29 PM PDT by wku man (We are the 53%! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUXN0GDuLN4)
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To: trisham

:-)


39 posted on 05/23/2014 6:15:01 PM PDT by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: Iscool

“Pledging allegiance to God and pledging allegiance to the FLAG are apples and oranges...It will never come to one or the other for the Christian...

That may however become an issue for a Catholic...”

I’m pretty sure they are all trained by the Order of Albino Assassin Monks to mouth the words with a straight face.

Obviously.

Freegards


40 posted on 05/23/2014 6:18:08 PM PDT by Ransomed
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