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What constitutes SHTF varies from person to person. After the market crash of 2008, and the collapse of my income, I wound up living on stored and foraged food for almost 2 years.

Of course, I own my property outright, and don't have a mortgage, a new boat or a new truck.

Not everyone in America lives like you seem to think they do.

Yep. You are a troll on prep threads. Why don't you just avoid them, since you don't bring anything positive to them?

/johnny

You are a troll on prep threads. Why don't you just avoid them, since you don't bring anything positive to them?

I would if there was anything positive to bring. I've already stated the reality on many occasions and nobody, not even you, has disputed my claims..........

Shall I repost my observations?

The "revolution" will not occur as long as the "patriots" have jobs that provide for their familes, pay the mortgage on the house, pay notes on the new SUV's, the trucks, the boats and the college educations for the kids in college. The "revolution" will not occur while these same "patriots" are still shuttling their kids to and from soccer, football and little league practices and games.........

I think I'm being pretty clear and precise on my observations but if you want to call me a troll then so be it............That's a common practice by folks who can't offer legitimate agruments...........