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Baker Must Make Cake for Same Sex Marriage in State Where Same Sex Marriage is Illegal
Creative Minority Report ^ | May 31, 2014 | Matthew Archbold

Posted on 05/31/2014 2:51:34 PM PDT by NYer

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To: NYer

Surrender the Social issues and one gets less freedom. The gay activists won’t be satisfied with marriage. Unfortunate there are some on the Right willing to sacrifice liberty to get the vote of 1% of the population.


61 posted on 05/31/2014 4:55:24 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: Soul of the South

I have heard the US Constitution trumps state laws...see gun control.


62 posted on 05/31/2014 5:00:51 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: NYer
To repeat a saying I read here . . . somewhere:

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In a free country, Christian confectioners should not be compelled to pack anyone's fudge.


63 posted on 05/31/2014 5:03:49 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: Jonty30
The simple solution, in my book, is to have a prominent sign saying that all proceeds from cakes baked for homosexual events will be given to pro-family causes.

The courts will determine that to be harassment or hate speech or something.

64 posted on 05/31/2014 5:05:34 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: Fast Moving Angel

Well, there’s that and drugging a person without their consent.


65 posted on 05/31/2014 5:06:03 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: trisham

Ok, ok, ok...I am a bit confused here. How do they MAKE him bake a cake?

Do they throw him in jail if he refuses? This commission cannot do that. A judge must do that.

I would tell them to pound sand.


66 posted on 05/31/2014 5:09:56 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: NYer

Bake the cake, but put a lot of laxative in it.


67 posted on 05/31/2014 5:18:15 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: NYer

But they DIDN’T order him to bake a GOOD cake that looks GOOD did they?


68 posted on 05/31/2014 5:27:47 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: NYer

Make the bakery Members Only then you can exclude whoever or whatever you want.


69 posted on 05/31/2014 6:03:45 PM PDT by Ben Mugged (The number one enemy of liberalism is reality.)
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To: RginTN

The Supreme Court has asserted the power to trump state laws despite the fact the power to do so is not delineated in the Constitution. Like Robert Bork and Justice Scalia I believe in the Constitution as written (original intent), not the “living” Constitution as interpreted at various points in time by 9 political animals in black robes.

The letter of the Constitution does not give Congress or the federal government the power to usurp state laws relating to speech, religion, assembly, and the press it only prohibits Congress from infringing on those rights. Despite the letter of the Constitution, the 9 political animals in black robes in our time have upheld the Patriot Act allowing Congress and the federal government to spy on American citizens and hold them without due process of law. This demonstrates the danger of allowing “interpretation” of what is clearly stated in the Constitution.

It is only a matter of time before the balance of power on the Court shifts completely, and permanently to a progressive majority. When that happens, it is almost certain the Court will interpret the term “militia” in the 2nd Amendment to mean the armed forces, national guard and law enforcement thereby removing the right to bear arms from the general population. We can also expect hate speech laws to be upheld by a progressive majority court as well as limitations on religious expression (particularly for Christians) and state control of speech on the internet and public airwaves.

Once a society moves from rule by the law as written to law as interpreted, the law will be manipulated to suit the agenda of the dominant political element.

Even though the Supreme Court has usurped the power to trump the decisions of state courts, in this particular case I can’t see the current Supremes ruling the baker’s religious convictions allow him to refuse to sell his wares to homosexuals. The politics of today being what they are.


70 posted on 05/31/2014 6:06:39 PM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: Amendment10

Heart of Atlanta Motel Inc. v. United States

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_of_Atlanta_Motel_v._United_States


71 posted on 05/31/2014 6:13:47 PM PDT by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: Salamander
I would make them a cake....


72 posted on 05/31/2014 6:20:33 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: NYer

A baker who was not friendly to the homo nazis, but was compelled to make a cake for them, might—let’s say—pee in the cake batter.


73 posted on 05/31/2014 6:23:16 PM PDT by matt1234 (Hitler blamed the Jews. Obama blames the Tea Party.)
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To: NYer

Make them sign a contract saying total damages will not exceed the cost of the cake and then make a mistake of using salt instead of sugar.


74 posted on 05/31/2014 6:33:09 PM PDT by gunnut
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To: Amendment10

I wish we had more Jeffersonian logic and less Carroll insanity, but we have the addled mental lunacy of our rulers instead.

I’m thankful I won’t see the next decade of debauched intellect.


75 posted on 05/31/2014 6:44:20 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: marktwain; All
Thank you for referencing that article marktwain. Please bear in mind that the following critique is directed at the referenced Wikipedia page about Atlanta Motel Inc. v. United States, and not at you.

Beware of any post-FDR era Supreme Court decision which tests the scope of Congress's Commerce Clause powers. This is because when FDR's activist justices decided Wickard v. Filburn in Congress's favor in the early 1940s, they wrongly ignored that previous generations of justices had clarified the following about the scope of Congress's Commerce Clause powers. The states have never delegated to Congress, via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate intrastate commerce.

”State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress [emphases added].” —Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

So the Court's PC decision in Atlanta Motel Inc. v. United States needs to be overturned imo.

76 posted on 05/31/2014 6:47:28 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: NYer

You create a corporation, you make a deal with the devil.

No one blinks over paying for a piece of paper that absolves you of personal responsibility for what you do.

No one wonders how it works. How that piece of paper has so much power.

It’s a contract.

You surrender your rights to the State, and in return the State indemnifies youf ro certain things, and repaces your rights with privileges.

And privileges are granted for the benefit of the State - not you.

Like I said, a deal with the devil.

And no one even acknowledges its existence.


77 posted on 05/31/2014 6:56:03 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: NYer
As he had done with other same-sex couples in the past Phillips refused to sell the goods, saying that he is a devout Christian and doesn’t approve of same-sex marriage.

Another pro-sodomy reporter or columnist doing his propaganda thing.
Paraphrasing reality to promote the pink Mafia.

What the hapless baker probably said was,

"saying that he is a devout Christian and doesn’t approve of same-sex marriage [being forced to do so would deny him the freedom to exercise the fundamental principles and tenets of his chosen religion".]

Big difference!

78 posted on 05/31/2014 6:59:31 PM PDT by publius911 ( Politicians come and go... but the (union) bureaucracy lives and grows forever.)
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To: Amendment10

I agree on Wickard v. Fillburn.

The Court’s twisting of the Commerce Clause has turned it completely on its head.


79 posted on 05/31/2014 7:00:55 PM PDT by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: PGR88

LOL


80 posted on 05/31/2014 7:28:59 PM PDT by Salamander (It's a cult and they worship blue oysters!)
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