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Original title: Hillary Clinton Endorses ‘Ban’ on ‘Assault Weapons’ and High-Capacity Magazines, Seemingly Confuses ‘Automatic’ vs. Semi-Automatic Firearms
1 posted on 06/22/2014 8:59:25 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

People with brain damage are frequently confused.


2 posted on 06/22/2014 9:00:23 PM PDT by Zathras
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FUHC!


3 posted on 06/22/2014 9:01:20 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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How ‘bout we ban clueless, over-the-hill, criminal, constitution trashing, left-wing, emotional idiots from seeking elected office?


5 posted on 06/22/2014 9:07:28 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (I don't want to feel "safe." I want to feel FREE!)
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You think she would know after dodging those sniper’s bullets, where was that? Bosnia? Of course, what difference does it make?


6 posted on 06/22/2014 9:07:34 PM PDT by rey
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Lefties like Hillary, Stephen King and Babs Feinstein discussing firearms is a lot like Irish Setters communicating telepathically, sharing their thoughts on French ‘Impressionist’ painting.
The difference is the dogs are talking nonsense quietly.


8 posted on 06/22/2014 9:10:02 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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“Clinton added. “We cannot let a minority of people… hold a viewpoint that terrorizes the majority of people.””

The *&#/@ is the minority.


9 posted on 06/22/2014 9:22:34 PM PDT by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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...she said. “I was disappointed that the Congress did not pass universal background checks...

Universal background checks?

One suspects that Universal background checks might be a nice requirement for running for POTUS.

For example, consider every academic class and credential (and senior thesis), every potential scandal, every job (including commodities investor), every investment, every claim (spelled L.I.E.) and accusation (and denial), every ghost writer, any influence on legislation and pardons, and every potential health issue (from cosmetic surgery to drug use to brain injury), just for starters. Eh?

10 posted on 06/22/2014 9:23:01 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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I would like to know exactly, and I mean in detail backed up by research and statistics and evidence, how anyone believes that eliminating so-called “high capacity” magazines would reduce gun violence. It is a dumb idea that has no, and I mean zero connection to reality.


11 posted on 06/22/2014 9:23:44 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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This is a dead horse semantics and jargon argument, and does us -no good- whatsoever. They state an intent to ban “high capacity clips”, and “automatic rifles assault rifles”.

We smugly point out how our ARs and AKs only use magazines, not clips. And we say we do not own a BAR, or anything with a select fire feature that would define an “assault rifle”.

We skip away thinking we are somehow winning. Automatic is at best, a term of art that often means “semi auto”. Colt automatics come to mind. They used that term widely.

In any case, they are trying to ban anything that feeds ammunition, and anything that fires repeatedly with only another trigger pull required. THAT is what they are attacking. Instead of wasting time with pointless arguments about proper terminology, and thinking that’s a win, we should argue the merits of “assault rifles” or military pattern rifles.
Otherwise, we convince someone that Hillary doesn’t know gun terms of art, and she laughs, and continues on to convince soccer moms that ALL guns outside of an expensive upland shotgun should be banned. That’s not a win for us.


12 posted on 06/22/2014 9:28:15 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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There's no confusion about it, other than their determination to obfuscate the meanings in their attempt to influence ignorant Americans who they hope will start howling for the banning/confiscation of automatic and semi-automatic weapons.

Obama made the same plea recently, for us to follow Australia's example to ban automatic and semi-automatic weapons.

They're not stupid. They're doing this on purpose, and they know exactly what they're doing and who they're dealing with.

They have their goals and they know who they need to pander to in order to achieve those goals.

13 posted on 06/22/2014 9:28:53 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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Wouldn’t have saved Vince Foster or Ron Brown now would it Hitlary? Always amazing how those that have armed protection are so eager to eliminate the same for others.


14 posted on 06/22/2014 9:32:51 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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Interesting. When “they” were governor of Arkansas gun control was not even considered.

When “THEY” became President, (remember her words, “WE are the President”) then they tried to fost of on us an assault rifle ban, something politicians had said they would NEVER DO!(They were really after handguns) but were trying to see if anything stuck.
Remember the words of Nelson “Pete” Shields, founder of Handgun Control Inc,(now the Brady Center)

Nelson T. ‘Pete’ Shields
Founder of Handgun Control, Inc.

“I’m convinced that we have to have federal legislation to build on. We’re going to have to take one step at a time, and the first step is necessarily — given the political realities — going to be very modest.

Of course, it’s true that politicians will then go home and say, ‘This is a great law. The problem is solved.’ And it’s also true that such statements will tend to defuse the gun-control issue for a time.

So then we’ll have to strengthen that law, and then again to strengthen that law, and maybe again and again. Right now, though, we’d be satisfied not with half a loaf but with a slice. Our ultimate goal — total control of handguns in the United States — is going to take time.

My estimate is from seven to ten years. The problem is to slow down the increasing number of handguns sold in this country. The second problem is to get them all registered. And the final problem is to make the possession of all handguns and all handgun ammunition — except for the military, policemen, licensed security guards, licensed sporting clubs, and licensed gun collectors — totally illegal.”

-Pete Shields, Chairman and founder, Handgun Control Inc., “A Reporter At Large: Handguns,” The New Yorker, July 26, 1976, 57-58

“Yes, I’m for an outright ban [on handguns].”

-Pete Shields, Chairman emeritus, Handgun Control, Inc., 60 Minutes interview

HCI, around 1984, came out in favor of a ban on semi-auto rifles and shotguns.

In other words, IF you cannot ban handguns BAN WHAT YOU CAN!


15 posted on 06/22/2014 9:41:21 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need more than seven rounds, Much more.)
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Remember that Connecticut law rushed through after Sandy Hook, requiring owners of ‘high capacity’ magazines to register them with the state?
Last I heard, the estimate was there were about a million such owners, but only 40,000 had registered. So over 900,000 gun owners are thumbing their noses at the law.
Dayum! What makes Hillary and other grabbers think the majority of Americans wouldn’t just ignore them?
Any Bay staters (Bay state, is that right?) know what the current status is? Still DOA?


17 posted on 06/22/2014 9:43:42 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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She really is brain damaged


19 posted on 06/22/2014 10:50:37 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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Buy AR 15s, Glocks, and Mossbergs


21 posted on 06/22/2014 11:27:47 PM PDT by Rock Eye Jack
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Wonder if the Hilldebeast would be in favor of banning clandestine shipments of shoulder launched missiles to rebels attempting to overthrow a government.


22 posted on 06/23/2014 12:01:50 AM PDT by Free in Texas (Member of the Bitter Clingers Association.)
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Shouldn’t she lead by example and ban her bodyguards from having such things first.


23 posted on 06/23/2014 12:37:09 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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Nothing new about this and likely deliberate.



  "The semi-automatic weapons' menacing looks, coupled with the public's
   confusion over fully automatic machine guns versus semi-automatic
   assault weapons anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to
   be a machine gun can only increase that chance of public support for
   restrictions on these weapons."
                       --  Josh Sugarman, 1988, Violence Policy Center.


25 posted on 06/23/2014 5:47:02 AM PDT by Peet (Liberals are the feces that are created when shame eats too much stupid. -Dale Gribble)
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More fear mongering by Hillary and the libs. I saw an interview with Michelle Bachman recently and she was asked about Hillary for President. Representative Bachman said that it would be like another 8 years of Barak Obama if Hillary got elected. That says it all for me!


26 posted on 06/23/2014 6:23:24 AM PDT by Q-ManRN (Progressivism is regressive!)
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Naw, wannabe dictators like Hitlery fully know the difference between the two.

They’re hoping their supporters and useful idiots don’t.


32 posted on 06/23/2014 6:50:13 PM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be earned and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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