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How come God never demands love, not punishment for all these folks leaving their countries to come north to America ?. Also as the Pastor points out here- Let us seek to understand the immigrant’s reasons for coming and to work collaboratively for just and reasonable immigration reform. Where is this same pastor and the many more like him out there daily speaking of how the many,many like him that they clearly cannot see that Americans already here cannot find jobs.Where is the let us understand that millions of Americans already here are reasons that are stated here how illegals making Americans move from state after state only to find there is no work in any other sates just the way it is due south.Should Pastors like him stop and ask themselves we have over last report there are about 100 million Americans unemployed if and when they are employed the wages = slave wages..These faith leaders who not bring up the topic that we come together to speak with all the out of work Americans and Immigration and Customs Enforcement ,Congress,Obama intends not to put Americans first ?Why is it faith leaders like these listed here would dare not say anything regarding millions of Americans out of work yet can talk with you all day long about illegals who come here illgally and we speak about them and how we must help them in anyway we can..How come illeglas get dr's apointments right away and at the same time our vets must wait ,wait and hurry up and wait and wait and wait.
1 posted on 07/13/2014 7:53:34 AM PDT by moonshinner_09
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They are not orphans. Now, if they want to allow us to adopt them and sever all ties with their families that’s fine.

This thing reminds me of the person that stops traffic and risks serious accidents to let a car pull into traffic that could have just as easily waited for the next opening in traffic.

Sometimes there are consequences to helping. Like when my kids got head lice when we took in a green card carrying Mexican woman 20 years ago with her six kids. Never again.


2 posted on 07/13/2014 7:57:57 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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Well ... this would make perfect sense ... if the government and God were the same thing.

But they’re not.


3 posted on 07/13/2014 7:58:15 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Harvey Dent, can we trust him?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBsdV--kLoQ)
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If we extend our largesse to these invaders, why stop there? There are millions of other "oppressed" people around the world. Why not open our borders to them too? In fact, why not become the garbage disposal for all the world's trash? Think of the service we'd be doing our downtrodden brothers and sisters if we took all their parasitic, diseased, criminal, insane, and barbaric refuse into our homes. Then those countries could proceed to build themselves up, knowing they had kept only the desirable elements because someone else was stupid enough to take the leavings.

America: the World's Landfill.

4 posted on 07/13/2014 7:58:31 AM PDT by IronJack
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I love it when Liberals turn to The Bible. God works in mysterious ways.

Say, Justin, how about doing a segment on what The Bible says about engaging in homosexual acts or about why a man and woman should leave their families and all that stuff.

That oughta be a fun read.

5 posted on 07/13/2014 7:59:39 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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Bible is clear on helping immigrants

Yeah, LEGAL immigrants, not illegal border-jumpers!

6 posted on 07/13/2014 8:00:16 AM PDT by Ken522
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Scripture repeatedly and unapologetically calls us to welcome the stranger, the orphan, the widow

It also has a few things to say about bearing false witness.

Look into it. You might be surprised.

7 posted on 07/13/2014 8:01:28 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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In 1500 BC, there were no immigration laws. The Israelites were invited into Egypt. They did not invade. When they did invade Canaan, they had to fight.

I’m all for helping the poor...in their own country. I support LEGAL immigration, although I wish we would write our laws to take in people who would help America instead of being a burden. My wife is a LEGAL immigrant from the Philippines.

What I oppose is an invasion of foreigners with different ideals and political beliefs flooding in from Mexico across the southern border. I object to the idea that people who wish to immigrate to the US legally have to wait their turn, UNLESS they come from Mexico or Central America. I object to having a flood of people entering illegally and trying to change our culture into one of never-ending entitlement to my money instead of supporting themselves.

I do, however, donate food, money and clothing to orphanages in northern Mexico...


8 posted on 07/13/2014 8:02:38 AM PDT by Mr Rogers
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Oh? They had tattooed gang members and drug cartels in Biblical times?


9 posted on 07/13/2014 8:02:58 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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Justin Remer-thamert / Program Director, New Mexico Faith Coalition For Immigrant Justice

Say, Justin, how much does that gig pay?

10 posted on 07/13/2014 8:03:06 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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They can't have it both ways. Liberals don't want and fight against every attempt to make America a "Christian" nation and have succeeded in turning America into a secular, humanistic nature whose laws are based on whatever popular opinion is.

They can't turn around and cite biblical examples of a true Godly nation, led by the Lord himself, and say that we have to do the same thing unless they're wiling to actually turn the government over to God.

11 posted on 07/13/2014 8:03:37 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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Bible is clear on helping immigrants

Pharaoh invited Joseph`s father and family to cross the border LEGALLY into Egypt.

Gen 45-17

“Now when the news was heard in Pharaoh’s house that Joseph’s brothers had come, it pleased Pharaoh and his servants. 17Then Pharaoh said to Joseph, “Say to your brothers, ‘Do this: load your beasts and go to the land of Canaan, 18and take your father and your households and come to me, and I will give you the best of the land of Egypt and you will eat the fat of the land.’…


12 posted on 07/13/2014 8:03:54 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits n firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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I hate when libs cite religion as a reason to do anything. The Bible is clear on many things, but as is often said we do not live in a nation governed by the Bible, and I think for the most part that’s a good thing.


13 posted on 07/13/2014 8:04:16 AM PDT by jocon307
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These are ‘immigrants’?


15 posted on 07/13/2014 8:04:17 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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So give them a hot meal, some shots, $100 and send them back where they came from.

Or, are we to rescue the entire world?

16 posted on 07/13/2014 8:04:29 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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Endangering your children with criminal gang-bangers and contagious diseases is “Christian.”

Right!

19 posted on 07/13/2014 8:06:06 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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Churches aren’t allowed in the camps, along with congressmen or cameras. But Big Br’O wants the Catholic Bishops’ help—as long as they don’t use the Name of Jesus.


20 posted on 07/13/2014 8:06:17 AM PDT by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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These aren’t homeless people abandoned and wondering in the dessert.

This is an orchestrated flood of foreigners being ILLEGALLY invited to move from their homes.

The objective is to drain our treasury, destroy our economy, and ensure an eternally dependent class of voters for the socialists and fascists power base.

The “Christian” thing to do would be to fix their corrupt governments at home.


22 posted on 07/13/2014 8:07:00 AM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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This is just more nonsense from social justice proponents who conveniently ignore Scripture that contradicts their emotionalism.

The Bible instructs us to obey the laws of the government. God had no problem with Israel maintaining its borders, and, in fact, stood behind them when the time came to do battle over them. “Stranger” in the context of the singled-out Scripture does not mean one who is engaged in lawbreaking.


24 posted on 07/13/2014 8:07:14 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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The Bible says “Those who don’t care for their own are worse than infidels” If a country’s government advocates policies that ignore the needs of its own populace in favor of those of other countries, then the government has violated its ruling compact with its own populace and must be swept aside. If a religious leader is preaching a sermon that attempts to persuade his congregation that the needs of poor illegals are more pressing then the poor and needy Americans who are unemployed...then he is a traitor to our country and an infidel to the faith!(and he must be swept aside and kicked out of his position)


25 posted on 07/13/2014 8:07:18 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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Serve them a hot lunch ... and DEPORT these people (specifically children) back to their EVIL governments ...

These EVIL Governments (Mexico, Guatemaula, etc) are using these CHILDREN as "Trojan Horses" to SPREAD disease, crime, poverty to the United States.

Period.


The cowardly Hamas and Palestians use children as "humas shields" as a MILITARY WEAPON.

These EVIL Governments (Mexico, Guatemaula, etc) are doing EXACTLY the same.



IF I were POTUS I'd first deport the illegal invaders (100 percent), STOP all FOREIGN AID to these third-world cesspool nations, and terminate diplomatic relations.



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26 posted on 07/13/2014 8:07:20 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (.)
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