Dinesh D'souza vs. Bill Ayers on C-Span now.

[ilovesarah2012]

Debating. Great.

[gaijin]

Anyone hear how much “America” the movie made? So far?

[ilovesarah2012]

I don’t know but I want to punch Ayers in the face. He makes me sick.

[ETL 2]

“Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, kill your parents, that’s where it’s really at”
—Bill Ayers (1970), quoted in New York Times, September 11, 2001:

Article: “No Regrets for a Love Of Explosives; In a Memoir of Sorts, a War Protester Talks of Life With the Weathermen”
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F02E1DE1438F932A2575AC0A9679C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1
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“Dig It. First they killed those pigs [ie, rich people], then they ate dinner in the same room with them, they even shoved a fork into a victim’s stomach! Wild!”
-Weather Underground leader and wife of Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn, referring to the Manson murders

Article: Allies in War -by David Horowitz
FrontPageMagazine.com | Monday, September 17, 2001
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=63512670-BF7C-42A0-B41D-5D0FB9E09C09

[ETL 2]

“It was at the Chicago home of [Bill] Ayers and [Bernardine] Dohrn that Obama, then an up-and-coming ‘community organizer,’ had his political coming out party in 1995. Not content with this rite of passage in Lefty World — where unrepentant terrorists are regarded as progressive luminaries, still working ‘only to educate’ — both Obamas tended to the relationship with the Ayers.”

Article: The Company He Keeps:
Meet Obama’s circle: The same old America-hating Left:
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YThjYTU1ZDBjNmQ2YzcwNzU1MmYwN2JiMWY0ZGI0NDA=&w=MA==

[NormsRevenge]

Did the set blow up yet?

they’re getting sloppy these days.

they used to blow up stuff

all over campuses..

[ETL 2]

‘Guilty as hell, free as a bird—America is a great country,’ he [Ayers] said.”

August 2001, Chicago Magazine (article: No Regrets)
http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/August-2001/No-Regrets/
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“So, would Mr. Ayers do it all again, he is asked? ‘I don’t want to discount the possibility’,he said.”

New York Times, September 11, 2001:
“No Regrets for a Love Of Explosives; In a Memoir of Sorts, a War Protester Talks of Life With the Weathermen”
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F02E1DE1438F932A2575AC0A9679C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1

[KC_Lion]

Bill Ayers needs a pair of Cement Shoes.

He need them years ago.

He would Burn this country to the ground if he could be Soviet Commissar of the Ashes.

Mass Murdering POS

[ilovesarah2012]

Dinesh is amazing. Ayers wears earrings.

[Ray76]

Nice earrings.

He should not be given a platform of any sort, CSPAN, college, nothing.

[Ray76]

You might find this interesting:

"The modern liberal - there's something about his ideology that leads him to invariably and inevitably side with evil over good, wrong over right, the lesser over the better, the ugly over the beautiful, the profane over the profound, and the behaviors that lead to failure over those that lead to success."

"If no religion, if no culture, if no person, if no behavior, if no form of governance, if nothing is better than anything else, then success is unjust."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiIOTkNdlKk
Rush Limbaugh on Evan Sayet's Universal Field Theory of Liberalism

[ETL 2]

Dinesh is amazing. Ayers wears earrings.

"He [Bill Ayers] also writes about the Weathermen's sexual experimentation as they tried to 'smash monogamy.' The Weathermen were 'an army of lovers,' he says, and describes having had different sexual partners, including his best male friend."

New York Times, September 11, 2001: "No Regrets for a Love Of Explosives; In a Memoir of Sorts, a War Protester Talks of Life With the Weathermen":

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F02E1DE1438F932A2575AC0A9679C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1

[nathanbedford]

I caught the last part of the debate, enough to hear both sides and enough to recognize Bill Ayres tactics. He is a thoroughgoing student of The Frankfurt School who seeks to diminish America so that it can be "transformed" into his socialist utopia.

To do that he seeks always to undermine the definitions by which we live. For example, he redefines our system of education as a "marketplace" and wants to substitute education as a "right." This is disingenuous because education already is a right in America. The question is what should constitute that education and calling it a "right" or calling a "marketplace" does not advance understanding of that question. But by denigrating the present educational system as a "marketplace" he can summon all the demons of the left, like "big business" and charge them with the failure of American education while in the very same breath blaming our refusal to listen to teachers unions as a cause of that failure.

By changing the definition he reverses polarity, stands truth on its head, and invites the unwary to believe, for example, that the teachers unions are the salvation rather than problem.

This is typical of the left, it is the ultimate goal of The Frankfurt School and equally typical of Saul Alinsky.

[aquila48]

The left understands the power of words much more than the right. When it comes to manipulating language and redefining words we on the right are babes-in-the-woods.

Not only most of us (even high level politicians who should know better) don’t know how to use those tactics, many don’t recognize what the left is doing and end up using the redefined words the way the left intends, and thus losing the argument before it even starts.

I started making a list of the more common words that the left has surreptitiously redefined. Here is the Orwellian list, together with what the left means by them (but won’t admit to it or reveal):

- access - you pay for something I want (birth control, abortions, housing, health care....)
- justice (social, environmental, economic, gender, reproductive, etc) - a form of socialist shakedown
- affordable (housing or anything else) - subsidized
- revenue enhancer - tax increase
- investment - a new goverment program to justify a tax increase
- sustainability - politburo type of planning
- cautionary principle - don’t get out of bed
- government expense - a tax cut
- right - something that I want that you should pay for
- bipartisanship - repubs sign up for the dems agenda
- community - pressure group
- diversity - backdoor quota
- smart growth - bureaucratic planning
- inclusive - a way to force you to associate with those you don’t want
- moral hazard - putting up with something you know up front is irresponsible
- “give back” to the community - extortion, shakedown
- hate speech - saying something they disagree with
- offended - my “rights” supersede yours
- racist - you disagree with someone’s values
- tolerance - forced acceptance, exaltation, reverence, privilege, affirmation, celebration of something you abhor
- affirmative action - quotas, reverse discrimination
- fairness - equality of results
- divisive - repubs disagree with the left on social policies
- Marriage - any two or more entities that decide they want the state to call them “married” for kicks or whatever other purpose. (Of course redefining “marriage”, redefines all human relations, ie, husband, wife, aunt, uncle, sister, brother, etc, etc.)
- Family - any conglomeration of people, animals, things that associate with each other at some level
- ending the war - retreat
- and so on...

I’m sure you can add more of your own.

[nathanbedford]

I’m sure you can add more of your own.

But not nearly so brilliantly as you have done. Congratulations and thank you!

[Ray76]

“...using the redefined words the way the left intends, and thus losing the argument before it even starts.”

Spot on.

[MarkL]

I saw Ayers on Megyn Kelly's show on FNC, and that was enough. "Creepy" doesn't even begin to describe that guy. No wonder Obama began his political "career" in Ayers' living room, and had him ghost write his books.

Given his past, if there were any real justice in this world, he'd worry about a bomb blast every time he opened a door or started his car.

Mark

[MacNaughton]

We all know Dinesh is facing a sentencing hearing sometime in the next couple months for his illegal campaign donation. I hope he gets off light.

Dinesh has actually had a pretty good year promoting his book and film. He debated Ayers at Dartmouth University (Dinesh's alma mater) back in JAN 2014 - see below.

1/31/2014 - Dinesh D'Souza and Bill Ayers Debate
video run time = 02:05:16 hours

Then came the media bump this summer regarding CostCo not stocking his book because the company founder was a HUGE BHO supporter.

Then came the series of Megyn Kelly interviews on FNC with Bill Ayers this summer culminating in 1 more brief debate/exchange between the Dinesh and Ayers.

And now they debated on C-SPAN.

Go Dinesh!

I recall listening to Michael Savage mourning the death of Andrew Breitbart on "The Savage Nation". Breitbart died about 2 weeks after dining in the home of Bill Ayers and Bernandine Dohrn in Chicago. Savage said he warned Breitbart not to do it. Savage planted the notion that Ayers/Dohrn could have poisoned Breitbart.

9/11/2001 – The New York Times printed an interview with former radical Weather Underground fugitive Bill Ayers by its reporter, Dinitia Smith, entitled, No Regrets for a Love Of Explosives; In a Memoir of Sorts, a War Protester Talks of Life With the Weathermen. The interview dealt with his recently published memoir, Fugitive Days. The lead sentences were: ''I don't regret setting bombs,'' Bill Ayers said. ''I feel we didn't do enough.'' … He also writes about the Weathermen's sexual experimentation as they tried to ''smash monogamy.'' The Weathermen were ''an army of lovers,'' he says, and describes having had different sexual partners, including his best male friend.

Cover of the AUG 2001 issue of Chicago magazine.

In an interesting historical twist, it was eventually revealed over 3 decades after the Watergate Scandal that the Associate Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (the #2 position in the F.B.I.), Mark Felt, was responsible for leaking insider information to Woodward and Bernstein which kept the investigation going. Felt’s identity had been kept secret by the 2 reporters and given the nickname “Deep Throat.” Some historians speculated that Felt was angry at not being appointed FBI Director when J. Edgar Hoover died 6 weeks before the Watergate break-in and may have retaliated against POTUS #37 RMN by guiding Woodward and Bernstein through the Watergate cover up info. Felt wrote in his memoir: “The record amply demonstrates that President Nixon made Pat Gray the Acting Director of the FBI because he wanted a politician in J. Edgar Hoover's position who would convert the Bureau into an adjunct of the White House machine.” In 1980, Felt was convicted of the felony of violating the civil rights of people thought to be associated with members of the Weather Underground Organization, by ordering FBI agents to search their homes as part of an attempt to prevent bombings. He was ordered to pay a U.S.$7,000 fine, but during his appeal, he was pardoned by POTUS #40 RWR on 4/15/1981. Felt finally revealed himself to be the Watergate scandal's whistleblower, "Deep Throat," on 5/31/2005. He died in 2008 at age 95. Felt had known FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover well and was an honorary pall bearer at Hoover’s funeral. He denounced the rumors that Hoover and his aid, Clyde Tolson, were homosexual lovers. Another long serving and high ranking FBI agent who defended Hoover was Edward S. Miller who died in 2013 at age 89. He vouched for Hoover’s sterling character. Miller attributed the homosexual rumors to communist agents and “useful idiots” in the media and Hollywood because of the FBI’s strong anti-communist efforts beginning during POTUS #32 FDR’s watch. Hoover’s effectiveness against the CPUSA made him a target of smear campaigns.

[ilovesarah2012]

The modern liberal takes God out of every equation. That is his main goal.