Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

TX: Good Guy With Gun Stops Attempted Murder outside of School
Gun Watch ^ | 23 August, 2014 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 08/25/2014 8:22:21 AM PDT by marktwain


During the last media push for laws to disarm the population, NRA executive VP Wayne LaPierre said that a good guy with a gun is what is needed to stop a bad guy with a gun.   A recent shooting outside the Harry Stone Montessori school in Dallas is a perfect illustration of his point. 

In this case, an armed citizen was present.   He happened to be an off duty police officer.   The "Gun Free School Zone" law would have worked perfectly to assure the attacker of an unarmed victim if the legally armed citizen had not been there.   From wfaa.com:

Dallas Police Deputy Chief Gil Garza said in a news conference the officer was out of uniform and headed to a family function when he saw an altercation. A woman was stopped at an intersection when another car, driven by the suspect, pulled up alongside her. Words were exchanged between the two, then the suspect fired multiple shots into the victim's vehicle.

The officer witnessed the shooting, got out of his vehicle, and intervened before he shot the suspect.
 Gun free school zone laws have been a complete disaster.   Mass shootings inside schools have increased four-fold since the laws were passed.   This shooting may not have any more connection to a school than the location; however, it does illustrate the insanity of "gun free zones". 

©2014 by Dean Weingarten: Permission to share is granted when this notice is included.
Link to Gun Watch


TOPICS: Education; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; gun; school; texas; tx
Not a "school shooting", because it did not occur inside a school, still, without permission from the government, you are not allowed to carry within 1000 feet of a school, by federal law.
1 posted on 08/25/2014 8:22:21 AM PDT by marktwain
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: marktwain

I thought that law was invalidated.


2 posted on 08/25/2014 8:28:41 AM PDT by Politically Correct (A member of the rabble in good standing)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Politically Correct

The Supreme Court ruled it unconstitutional in U.S. v. Lopez, as outside of the Commerce Clause.

President Clinton pushed a nearly identical law through with considerable help by the old media, changing the law to claim that it was valid under the interstate commerce clause.

The 1995 law has not been challenged in court, to my knowledge.


3 posted on 08/25/2014 8:33:57 AM PDT by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: marktwain
you are not allowed to carry within 1000 feet of a school, by federal law.

Not without a state-issued concealed-carry permit, that is.

4 posted on 08/25/2014 8:44:37 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: marktwain

The federal allow allows you to carry if you are licensed in that state.

If you are licensed in one state but travel to another state that recognizes your CC permit, you are violating the law if you travel through a school zone in that other state.


5 posted on 08/25/2014 8:45:57 AM PDT by TexasGator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Click The Pic To Donate

Support FR, Donate Monthly If You Can

6 posted on 08/25/2014 8:52:33 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: marktwain

How does that law apply to transporting long guns on a public road that runs within 1000’ of a school?

I know plenty of schools backing up to Interstate highways where the buildings are within a few hundred feet of the interstate right-of-way, and there are countless others that are within 1000’ of heavily traveled thoroughfares.


7 posted on 08/25/2014 8:53:01 AM PDT by Rebelbase
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Rebelbase

There is an exception in the law for guns that are unloaded and cased or in the trunk, as I recall. I would have to look up the exact language.

The whole law should be ruled unconstitutional.

To claim that guns within 1000 feet of a school comes under federal power by the interstate commerce clause is to claim that everything comes under the commerce clause. This is a logical absurdity, because if everything comes under the interstate commerce clause, why have an interstate commerce clause? It would have been much more logical and reasonable just to write: The congress shall have the power to regulate all transactions. No one would have voted for such an enormous grant of federal power.

But that is the insane reach that “progressive” courts have granted the federal government under the interstate commerce clause.


8 posted on 08/25/2014 9:09:52 AM PDT by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: marktwain
In PA, at least, you can carry within a school zone if you have a CCW, per PA State Police(2nd page)
9 posted on 08/25/2014 9:21:36 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PapaBear3625

Yes, you then have government permission.


10 posted on 08/25/2014 9:31:28 AM PDT by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: PapaBear3625

in commierado you can conceal carry IN YOUR CAR on school property. if you get OUT of your car in the school parking lot you are violating the law. if you get out to lock your weapon in the trunk you just broke the law.


11 posted on 08/25/2014 3:17:08 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (we shouldn't fear the government. the government should fear us.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson