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The Moral,Constitutional Justifications For Stopping Dead In Its Tracks The Islamization of America
Sons of Liberty ^ | August 25, 2014 | Staff

Posted on 08/30/2014 2:25:25 PM PDT by lbryce

This is an encouraging paper, because it explains the moral and constitutional justifications to stop the Islamization of our country.

We face a grave threat – the Muslims are infiltrating our country and taking over. We seem powerless to resist: Our governments won’t acknowledge the threat; we are told Muslims have “constitutional rights” to come here, proselytize everywhere, build mosques, and implement shariah in their communities and in the public square; and our governments are letting them do it.

The Muslims seek to replace our Constitution with shariah – their totalitarian political, economic, military, social & legal system – with the goal of incorporating our Country into a global Islamic caliphate. They are making progress in islamicizing our Country because we are not resisting.

And the dreadful message we are getting from all sources is that our Constitution renders us powerless to resist islamization.

But read on, and I will show you how our Constitution & Declaration of Independence – properly understood – actually give our federal, State & local governments justification and authority to stop the islamization of our Country. Once we understand two things, it becomes clear what we may – and must – do:

One: Islam is not a “religion” in the sense we understand religion. Islam is about TOTAL POWER. It is a system which controls every aspect of the lives of those who have the misfortune to be subjected to it. It masquerades as a religion, but once we understand that it is just another totalitarian system – like soviet communism, we can deal with it and defeat it.

Once in place, Islam is enforced with stone-age barbarism. It masquerades as a religion to recruit gullible fools who become suicide bombers, and to provide “cover” for officials in the Western countries who, indoctrinated with the Lies of multiculturalism & political correctness, look for an excuse to do nothing. Two: We must understand Our Founding Principles – these are our Sword & Shield – that (1) Rights come from God alone, (2) Muslims do not have the right to divest us of our Rights, and (3) the purpose of civil government is to secure the Rights God gave us.

Now let us learn more of our Sword and Shield. 1. Let us first consider Our Rights. What are our rights, and where do they come from? The Constitution? The First Ten Amendments? NO! The Declaration of Independence says: We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. – that to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, … Those words are golden: Our Rights come from God Who Created the Universe; and the purpose of civil government is to secure the Rights GOD gave us. God gave us many Rights: Life! Liberty! Pursuit of Happiness! To work and enjoy the fruits of our own labors. To earn, inherit and keep private property. To demand that the civil authorities obey the Law – and to hold them accountable when they don’t. To have a civil government which protects our God given rights, protects us from invasion and criminals, but gives fair trials to accused persons. Equal treatment under the law: Courts are not to favor the rich, or the poor, or males or females. God means for us to enjoy life! Healthy food, wine and strong drink (in moderation); attractive dress for women, the marriage relation between man & woman, prosperity, and liberty! As long as we obey the criminal laws (don’t murder, steal, bear false witness, and the like), we have the right to be left alone. Liberty is the rule in God’s Model for civil government. That is why our Liberty Bell quotes Leviticus 25:10 – “Proclaim LIBERTY throughout all the Land unto all the Inhabitants thereof.”

2. Do Muslims respect the rights God gave us? Life? Theirs is a culture of death: murder, honor killings & suicide bombers. Liberty? Theirs is a culture where women are slaves and prisoners, little girls toys for old men, and conversion to Christianity a capital offense. Pursuit of Happiness? Theirs is a culture of torture & sadism. Young Muslim girls in America who talked to non-Muslim boys were shot to death by their father in the back seat of his taxicab. Wife-beating is commonplace. Women who don’t cover their hair are lashed. Women are mutilated and maimed on the faces and even in their private places. Freedom of Speech? Theirs is a culture where criticizing Islam leads to a terrible death. You can go down the list: For every Right God gave us, the Muslims take it away. Let’s look at just one God-given right – the Right to a fair trial: Bearing false witness is condemned (The Ten Commandments); the evidence of two or more witnesses is required to prove a case (Deut 19:15 & Matthew 18:16); public trials are required (Exodus 18:13); & judges are required to be fair, impartial, & without favoritism. (Deut. 1:16-17). Do Muslims respect this God-given right to a fair trial? NO! In Iran, judges in “morals” cases (adultery) are allowed to make their own subjective determinations that a person is guilty even in the absence of any EVIDENCE! Do Muslims have the “right” to impose in this Country a shariah system which takes away the rights GOD gave us? No! God did not give Muslims the “right” to take away from us, the rights He gave us!

3. We are told Muslims have a “First Amendment right” to build mosques, proselytize, and implement shariah here. But is that what the First Amendment says? No! Let’s read it: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. The First Amendment doesn’t grant any rights to anybody! All it does is prohibit CONGRESS from making laws about religion, speech, the press, or assembly! So Muslims do not have a “First Amendment right” to build mosques, proselytize, and implement shariah here.

4. Not only do Muslims claim the “right” to impose shariah in the Muslim communities springing up throughout our Country, they also claim the “right” to impose shariah law in the public square: They demand shariah compliant financial institutions, foot baths in public places, that wine, sausages, and the like be banned from their presence, that they be allowed to shut down public streets for “prayers”, etc. Do Muslims have the “right” to apply their law here? No! Art. VI, clause 2 of Our Constitution says: This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding. OUR Constitution and laws authorized by OUR Constitution are the supreme law of this land – and anything to the contrary must fall. It violates Our Constitution for Muslims to practice shariah here! Muslims who thus seek to overthrow Our Constitution and replace it with shariah are guilty of criminal sedition. The federal government has the duty to prosecute them for sedition – or deport them.

5. Can the federal or state or local governments properly extend to Muslims a “right” to build mosques & proselytize here? No! Because The Declaration of Independence says the purpose of civil government is to secure the rights God gave us. Muslims seek to take away our God-given Rights. Civil government is supposed to protect us from those who seek to divest us of our Rights.

We must insist that our federal, State, and local governments STOP the islamization of Our Country. We must insist that they live up to the one legitimate purpose of civil government: to protect our GOD-given rights.

6. WE are a Christian Country based on Judeo – Christian principles. Our Constitution is not a suicide pact. It does not require us to permit Muslims to take Our Country over and destroy Our principles and impose their barbaric totalitarian system on us.

The Declaration of Independence recognizes God as Creator, supreme Judge and Regulator of the World, and as our Divine Protector. Article VII of Our Constitution, just above the signatures, recognizes the Lordship of Jesus Christ. It says, Done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven …

7. So! Let us summarize the above three Principles: (1) Our Rights come from God – they predate & preexist the Constitution. Our Constitution doesn’t give “rights” to anybody. So Muslims don’t have “constitutional rights” to come here, build mosques, proselytize, and impose shariah.

(2) All the Evidence shows that Muslims take away from People the Rights God gave them. Since Our Declaration of Independence acknowledges that the purpose of civil governments is to secure the Rights GOD gave us, it is the duty and responsibility of civil governments at all levels to protect us from islamization.

(3) Article VI, clause 2, U.S. Constitution – the “Supremacy clause” – makes it unconstitutional for Muslims to practice shariah law ANYWHERE in Our Country.

8. The Center for Security Policy recently issued a scholarly (but readable) report: “Shariah: The Threat to America”. Important suggested policy changes are listed on pages 141-144. Tell your tea party groups! Take delegations to your local, state, and federal representatives and tell them about it. Most of them are weak & ignorant, so you must educate them and demand that they do their job and defend your community from islamization.

9. Dutch Member of Parliament Geert Wilders lists ten steps western countries must take to stop the islamization of their countries. All ten steps are mandated by our Declaration of Independence, and consistent with our Constitution:

(1) Stop cultural relativism: We must formalize the Idea that we have one dominant culture that is based on Judaism & Christianity [Wilders adds "humanism"].

(2) Stop pretending that Islam is a religion.

(3) Show the true face of fundamentalist Islam. It is a brutal totalitarian ideology.

(4) Stop all immigration from Muslim countries. For Muslims who are already citizens, tell them that if they adhere to our values and our Constitution, they may stay as equals. But if they deviate, we will expel them.

(5) Outlaw shariah and deport practitioners.

(6) Require Muslims to sign legally binding pledge of integration and allegiance.

(7) Stop building mosques.

(8) Seek reciprocity with Saudi Arabia for western churches & synagogues.

(9) Close all Islamic schools – they are fascist institutions teaching hate.

(10) Remove our current weak leaders.

It is time to boldly stand up for Our God, OUR Declaration of Independence, and Our Constitution, and say, “No!” to those who are taking over Our Country. It is time to use Our God-given unalienable Rights and Our Constitution as the Sword & Shield they are meant to be. We can and must use these to defeat Islamization. Watch Melanie Phillips explain how the abandonment of the concepts of Objective Truth and the embracing of moral relativism & multiculturalism is permitting the islamization of England:Once in place, Islam is enforced with stone-age barbarism. It masquerades as a religion to recruit gullible fools who become suicide bombers, and to provide “cover” for officials in the Western countries who, indoctrinated with the Lies of multiculturalism & political correctness, look for an excuse to do nothing. Two: We must understand Our Founding Principles – these are our Sword & Shield – that (1) Rights come from God alone, (2) Muslims do not have the right to divest us of our Rights, and (3) the purpose of civil government is to secure the Rights God gave us. Now let us learn more of our Sword and Shield. 1. Let us first consider Our Rights. What are our rights, and where do they come from? The Constitution? The First Ten Amendments? NO! The Declaration of Independence says: We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. – that to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, … Those words are golden: Our Rights come from God Who Created the Universe; and the purpose of civil government is to secure the Rights GOD gave us. God gave us many Rights: Life! Liberty! Pursuit of Happiness! To work and enjoy the fruits of our own labors. To earn, inherit and keep private property. To demand that the civil authorities obey the Law – and to hold them accountable when they don’t. To have a civil government which protects our God given rights, protects us from invasion and criminals, but gives fair trials to accused persons. Equal treatment under the law: Courts are not to favor the rich, or the poor, or males or females. God means for us to enjoy life! Healthy food, wine and strong drink (in moderation); attractive dress for women, the marriage relation between man & woman, prosperity, and liberty! As long as we obey the criminal laws (don’t murder, steal, bear false witness, and the like), we have the right to be left alone. Liberty is the rule in God’s Model for civil government. That is why our Liberty Bell quotes Leviticus 25:10 – “Proclaim LIBERTY throughout all the Land unto all the Inhabitants thereof.” 2. Do Muslims respect the rights God gave us? Life? Theirs is a culture of death: murder, honor killings & suicide bombers. Liberty? Theirs is a culture where women are slaves and prisoners, little girls toys for old men, and conversion to Christianity a capital offense. Pursuit of Happiness? Theirs is a culture of torture & sadism. Young Muslim girls in America who talked to non-Muslim boys were shot to death by their father in the back seat of his taxicab. Wife-beating is commonplace. Women who don’t cover their hair are lashed. Women are mutilated and maimed on the faces and even in their private places. Freedom of Speech? Theirs is a culture where criticizing Islam leads to a terrible death. You can go down the list: For every Right God gave us, the Muslims take it away. Let’s look at just one God-given right – the Right to a fair trial: Bearing false witness is condemned (The Ten Commandments); the evidence of two or more witnesses is required to prove a case (Deut 19:15 & Matthew 18:16); public trials are required (Exodus 18:13); & judges are required to be fair, impartial, & without favoritism. (Deut. 1:16-17). Do Muslims respect this God-given right to a fair trial? NO! In Iran, judges in “morals” cases (adultery) are allowed to make their own subjective determinations that a person is guilty even in the absence of any EVIDENCE! Do Muslims have the “right” to impose in this Country a shariah system which takes away the rights GOD gave us? No! God did not give Muslims the “right” to take away from us, the rights He gave us! 3. We are told Muslims have a “First Amendment right” to build mosques, proselytize, and implement shariah here. But is that what the First Amendment says? No! Let’s read it: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. The First Amendment doesn’t grant any rights to anybody! All it does is prohibit CONGRESS from making laws about religion, speech, the press, or assembly! So Muslims do not have a “First Amendment right” to build mosques, proselytize, and implement shariah here. 4. Not only do Muslims claim the “right” to impose shariah in the Muslim communities springing up throughout our Country, they also claim the “right” to impose shariah law in the public square: They demand shariah compliant financial institutions, foot baths in public places, that wine, sausages, and the like be banned from their presence, that they be allowed to shut down public streets for “prayers”, etc. Do Muslims have the “right” to apply their law here? No! Art. VI, clause 2 of Our Constitution says: This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding. OUR Constitution and laws authorized by OUR Constitution are the supreme law of this land – and anything to the contrary must fall. It violates Our Constitution for Muslims to practice shariah here! Muslims who thus seek to overthrow Our Constitution and replace it with shariah are guilty of criminal sedition. The federal government has the duty to prosecute them for sedition – or deport them. 5. Can the federal or state or local governments properly extend to Muslims a “right” to build mosques & proselytize here? No! Because The Declaration of Independence says the purpose of civil government is to secure the rights God gave us. Muslims seek to take away our God-given Rights. Civil government is supposed to protect us from those who seek to divest us of our Rights. We must insist that our federal, State, and local governments STOP the islamization of Our Country. We must insist that they live up to the one legitimate purpose of civil government: to protect our GOD-given rights. 6. WE are a Christian Country based on Judeo – Christian principles. Our Constitution is not a suicide pact. It does not require us to permit Muslims to take Our Country over and destroy Our principles and impose their barbaric totalitarian system on us. The Declaration of Independence recognizes God as Creator, supreme Judge and Regulator of the World, and as our Divine Protector. Article VII of Our Constitution, just above the signatures, recognizes the Lordship of Jesus Christ. It says, Done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven … 7. So! Let us summarize the above three Principles: (1) Our Rights come from God – they predate & preexist the Constitution. Our Constitution doesn’t give “rights” to anybody. So Muslims don’t have “constitutional rights” to come here, build mosques, proselytize, and impose shariah. (2) All the Evidence shows that Muslims take away from People the Rights God gave them. Since Our Declaration of Independence acknowledges that the purpose of civil governments is to secure the Rights GOD gave us, it is the duty and responsibility of civil governments at all levels to protect us from islamization. (3) Article VI, clause 2, U.S. Constitution – the “Supremacy clause” – makes it unconstitutional for Muslims to practice shariah law ANYWHERE in Our Country. 8. The Center for Security Policy recently issued a scholarly (but readable) report: “Shariah: The Threat to America”. Important suggested policy changes are listed on pages 141-144. Tell your tea party groups! Take delegations to your local, state, and federal representatives and tell them about it. Most of them are weak & ignorant, so you must educate them and demand that they do their job and defend your community from islamization. 9. Dutch Member of Parliament Geert Wilders lists ten steps western countries must take to stop the islamization of their countries. All ten steps are mandated by our Declaration of Independence, and consistent with our Constitution: (1) Stop cultural relativism: We must formalize the Idea that we have one dominant culture that is based on Judaism & Christianity [Wilders adds "humanism"]. (2) Stop pretending that Islam is a religion. (3) Show the true face of fundamentalist Islam. It is a brutal totalitarian ideology. (4) Stop all immigration from Muslim countries. For Muslims who are already citizens, tell them that if they adhere to our values and our Constitution, they may stay as equals. But if they deviate, we will expel them. (5) Outlaw shariah and deport practitioners. (6) Require Muslims to sign legally binding pledge of integration and allegiance. (7) Stop building mosques. (8) Seek reciprocity with Saudi Arabia for western churches & synagogues. (9) Close all Islamic schools – they are fascist institutions teaching hate. (10) Remove our current weak leaders. It is time to boldly stand up for Our God, OUR Declaration of Independence, and Our Constitution, and say, “No!” to those who are taking over Our Country. It is time to use Our God-given unalienable Rights and Our Constitution as the Sword & Shield they are meant to be. We can and must use these to defeat Islamization. Watch Melanie Phillips explain how the abandonment of the concepts of Objective Truth and the embracing of moral relativism & multiculturalism is permitting the islamization of England:

YouTube:Islam in Europe

Read more at http://sonsoflibertymedia.com/2014/08/gods-gift-unalienable-rights-article-vi-constitution-sword-shield-stop-islamization-america/#iXX1WXs9twuw2f1Y.99


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: america
Stopping the Islamization of America? The American people have not show the least bit apprehension whatsoever regarding the current and future state of America, have not shown the slightest concern regarding the securing of our nation from those who are bent on destroying America as it is currently undergoing from within by forces that are as treasonous, traitorous as any Un-American foe imaginable.

The election of 2012 was a major turning point in the history of America and of this world. There was more than enough revealed about Obama and his diabolical objectives to destroy America, to unravel it piece by piece, either through the egregious violation of the Constitution or his deliberate, wholly apathetic non-reaction towards either domestic or foreign concerns that threaten our very existence, along with the introduction of the Muslim Brotherhood into his inner circle to have thrown him out of office without hesitation.

Yet,despite all the fail safe political mechanisms instituted by our forefathers to insure the Republic for all time, this nation, its sacred institutions, the Constitution itself is currently slowly being compromised into obsolescence by a seemingly unstoppable wraith-like force, the likes of which is inexplicable, supra-natural in its ability to act with impunity, apathy, disabling the very mechanisms of government designed to deal with the abject political subterfuge it relentlessly engages in without any genuine resistance or objection, from either the people or more significantly those elected officials designated to facilitate just this very thing.

Where are the leaders of this country, who by every design of politics, their spirit of moral conscience, ought to be setting strategy, taking action to the very limits of the law but as of yet sit stoic in abject lack of any initiative in this regard, who on Judgement Day will hang collectively down on high from the rafters, complicit in the downfall of this country.

And now you try to rally the people to stop a much more powerful unrelenting force, a situation exacerbated by our very own leader both domestically and worldwide, that Islamization has shown itself to be?

1 posted on 08/30/2014 2:25:25 PM PDT by lbryce
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To: lbryce

We shot nazis, didn’t we?


2 posted on 08/30/2014 2:28:48 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: lbryce
Typical Islamic procrustean attacks on western prisoners
from the Barbary Pirates to today in America:


When the Founding Fathers Faced Islamists

"Back in 1784, John Adams and Thomas Jefferson had to decide whether to appease or stand up to armed Middle Eastern pirates. Sound familiar?

.... The Middle East, a term coined by Alfred Thayer Mahan, one of McCain’s boyhood idols, is where both American warfare and American diplomacy began in the late 18th century, as our infant republic faced its first post-Revolutionary struggle against the evocatively named Barbary States of the Ottoman Empire.

The regencies of Tripoli, Tunis, and Algiers (future homes of Muammar Qaddafi, Yasser Arafat, and the Islamic Salvation Front, respectively) had been hosting and sponsoring Islamic piracy since the Middle Ages. Scimitar-wielding corsairs would regularly interrupt the flow of trade and traffic along the coasts of North Africa, seizing European vessels and taking their crews into bondage. Cervantes wrote his first play, in the 16th century, about the dread corsairs, and by the 18th, the American colonies had a minor seagoing presence in the Mediterranean protected by the redoubtable British Navy. But the Crown was reluctant to war against so petty an antagonist, preferring to pay “tribute” to the Barbary States instead, as a shopkeeper would protection money to the mafia. After the U.S. broke away from England and became its own nation, however, the geopolitical dynamics changed, as did the American equanimity with doing business with pirates.

In 1784, corsairs attacked the Betsy, a 300-ton brig that had sailed from Boston to Tenerife Island, about 100 miles off the North African coast, selling her new-made citizens as chattel on the markets of Morocco. The U.S. was not free of its own moral taint of slavery, of course, but it would be impossible to hasten the industrial development that would eventually render the agrarian-plantation economy obsolete if merchant ships could not be assured of safe conduct near the Turkish Porte. Other vessels, such as the Dauphin and Maria, were also seized, this time by Algiers, and the horrifying experiences of their captive passengers relayed back home were the cause for outrage. James Leander Cathcart described the dungeon in which he was being kept as “perfectly dark…where the slaves sleep four tiers deep…many nearly naked, and few with anything more than an old tattered blanket to cover them in the depth of winter.”

In response, Thomas Jefferson, then the Minister to France, suggested a multilateral approach of what we would now term “deterrence.” He asked that Spain, Portugal, Naples, Denmark, Sweden and France enter into a coalition with America to dissuade the regencies from their criminal assaults on life, liberty and the pursuit of international commerce. As Michael Oren, in his magisterial history Power, Faith, and Fantasy: America in the Middle East: 1776 to Present relates, “By deterring, rather than appeasing, Barbary, the United States would preserve its economy and send an unambiguous message to potentially hostile powers.” Jefferson thought it would impress Europe if America could do what Europe had failed to do for centuries and beat back the persistent thuggery of Islamists. “It will procure us respect,” said the author of the Declaration of Independence. “And respect is a safeguard to interest.”

This sober judgment fused the cold calculations of latter-day “realism” with the morality behind revolutionary interventionism: not only would America protect its citizens from plunder and foreign slaveholding; it would ensure that other countries under “Christendom” were similarly protected.

Though Jefferson found a stalwart Continental ally in a former one, the Marquis de Lafayette, France squelched the idea of a NATO made of buckshot and cannon. While waiting for funds that would never come from Congress for the construction of a 150-gun navy, the sage of Monticello resigned himself to further diplomacy with the enemy. In 1785, he dispatched John Lamb, a Connecticut businessman, to secure the release of hostages in Algiers, held by its dynastic sovereign Hassan Dey. Lamb failed ignominiously.

At the same time, John Adams, then minister to England, agreed to receive the pasha of Tripoli, ‘Abd al-Rahman al-Ajar, in his London quarters to discuss a possible peace deal. Adams described his interlocutor as a man who looked all “pestilence and war,” a suspicion that was soon confirmed by the pasha’s demand of 30,000 guineas for his statelet, plus a 3,000 guinea gratuity for himself. He also did Adams the favor of estimating what it would cost the U.S. to broker a similar deal with Tunis, Morocco and Algiers — the total price for blackmail would be about $1 million, or a tenth the annual budget of the United States.

Adams was incensed. “It would be more proper to write [of his meeting with ‘Abd al-Rahman] for the… New York Theatre,” he thundered. He agreed with Jefferson that a military response was increasingly likely, but Adams doubted his country’s economic ability to sustain it. For the short term, he thought it better to offer “one Gift of two hundred Thousand Pounds” rather than forfeit “a Million annually” in trade revenue, which the pirates were sure to disrupt. Not long thereafter, Jefferson joined him in London to prevent the “universal and horrible War” and reach an accord with the refractory envoy from Tripoli. Both gentlemen of the Enlightenment, and comrades in revolution, affirmed America’s desire for peace, its respect for all nations, and suggested a treaty of lasting friendship with the regency. ‘Abd al-Rahman listened well, but his reply was one that would shock modern ears less than it did those of the two Founding Fathers:

“It was… written in the Koran, that all Nations who should not have acknowledged [the Muslims’] authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon wheoever they could find and to make Slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise.”


3 posted on 08/30/2014 2:29:16 PM PDT by Diogenesis (The EXEMPT Congress is complicit in the absence of impeachment)
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To: skeeter
Hitler unilaterally declared war on America. What you saw was the call to arms by the greatest military force ever assembled.

Islam declares war on America. We take another round of golf... or drinks....accept another round of BS.

4 posted on 08/30/2014 2:42:10 PM PDT by lbryce (Barack Obama:Misbegotten, Bastard Offspring of Satan and Medusa.)
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To: lbryce

Major, major problem.

To declare Religion A to not be “a real religion,” we would have to give some agency of the federal government the power to decide which religions are “real,” and which are not, and therefore unprotected by 1A.

This is A Very Bad Idea.

Islam meets every logical definition of a religion. It is, to be sure, not only a religion, in the sense we think of the concept today, but then neither was Christianity for most of its existence.


5 posted on 08/30/2014 2:42:54 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins most of the battles. Reality wins ALL the wars.)
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To: Sherman Logan

Obvious. But never mind, he’s on a roll.


6 posted on 08/30/2014 2:44:49 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Sherman Logan

I agree. So there’s no stopping them through any legal maneuvering. Which only makes them a greater threat than the author believes.


7 posted on 08/30/2014 2:50:11 PM PDT by lbryce (Barack Obama:Misbegotten, Bastard Offspring of Satan and Medusa.)
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To: lbryce

Lot of weird people out there.


8 posted on 08/30/2014 2:50:55 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: lbryce
We are told Muslims have a “First Amendment right” to build mosques, proselytize, and implement shariah here.

From Internet sources:

Pro: "[A] function of free speech under our system of government is to invite dispute. It may indeed best [10 Cal.3d 147] serve its high purpose when it induces a condition of unrest, creates dissatisfaction with conditions as they are, or even stirs people to anger." (Terminiello v. Chicago (1949)

Con: Justice Jackson's dissent in Terminello v. Chicago, 337 U.S. 1, 37 (1949): "There is danger that, if the Court does not temper its doctrinaire logic with a little practical wisdom, it will convert the constitutional Bill of Rights into a suicide pact."

IIRC Terminello v. Chicago had to do with a preacher (anti-communist?) condemning one thing or the other.

9 posted on 08/30/2014 2:53:58 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: All

Read Robert Spencer: his solution is to limit their ability to live in the US, however that might be accomplished. Those already here must leave.


10 posted on 08/30/2014 2:55:13 PM PDT by bennowens
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To: lbryce

A roadmap.


11 posted on 08/30/2014 2:58:21 PM PDT by rockinqsranch ((Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.))
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To: lbryce

Hear, hear!!Well articulated, Sons of Liberty!


12 posted on 08/30/2014 3:06:14 PM PDT by She_is_my_ hero (The speediest of marine creatures)
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To: Diogenesis

Staff tard has a point. There is a Muslim in the white
hut and he sure does hate America. The real problem is all
the morons that voted for him. That to me is a bigger
threat than a bunch of cowardly ragheads.


13 posted on 08/30/2014 4:36:51 PM PDT by Slambat
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To: skeeter

Bump and Save


14 posted on 08/30/2014 4:54:04 PM PDT by Rumplemeyer (The GOP should stand its ground - and fix Bayonets)
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To: lbryce

bkmk


15 posted on 08/30/2014 9:02:08 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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